Return-Path: Received: from mail.eclipse.net ([207.207.192.13]) by truman.olsusa.com (Post.Office MTA v3.1.2 release (PO203-101c) ID# 0-44819U2500L250S0) with ESMTP id AAA24574 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 18:26:26 -0400 Received: from bltinc.com (bb1-113.eclipse.net [207.207.196.113]) by mail.eclipse.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA06641 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 1998 18:26:28 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <36194693.2D4774BD@bltinc.com> Date: Mon, 05 Oct 1998 18:22:11 -0400 From: Ed McCauley Organization: Bottom Line Technologies Inc. To: "lancair.list@olsusa.com" Subject: Hinges and rivets (continued) X-Mailing-List: lancair.list@olsusa.com Mime-Version: 1.0 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> << Lancair Builders' Mail List >> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> Thanks to all that expressed their ideas on bonding the elevator and aileron trim tab hinges to the carbon skins. I'd like to ask for some "deep thought" on the subject. After I read everyone's concerns about not using rivets I have two more questions: 1. If I counter sink the rivet, the actual contact area of the rivet to the carbon is so minimal it would seem that tensile strength could hardly exist. 2. If I 'beef up' the carbon from behind, I would think that, because of the relative surface areas involved, the tension of the rivet is actually being taken more by the 'beefing up material than' the outer carbon skin. On other words, if that's the case, isn't the rivet being held to stuff that's just epoxied to the skin (from the inside), not the skin, itself? If so, aren't I right back to what I already have? Both of the hinges that I secured with epoxy and flox SEEM incredibly strong. I don't think I could get the hinges off (without Mr. Heatgun) if I tried. I have NO problem sticking a few rivets in, I just wonder what REAL good they'll do. Thanks again for your help group. -- Ed McCauley Lancair IV-P Milford, NJ