X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2014 07:53:09 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from plus24.host4u.net ([66.70.195.24] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.9e) with ESMTP id 7084051 for lml@lancaironline.net; Thu, 07 Aug 2014 23:59:09 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=66.70.195.24; envelope-from=cj@AwlBiz.com Received: from www.awlbiz.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by plus24.host4u.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id s783wYd13805 for ; Thu, 7 Aug 2014 22:58:34 -0500 Received: from 99-35-194-187.lightspeed.edmdok.sbcglobal.net ([99.35.194.187]) (SquirrelMail authenticated user cj); by www.awlbiz.com with HTTP; Thu, 7 Aug 2014 22:58:34 -0500 (CDT) X-Original-Message-ID: <57887.99.35.194.187.1407470314.squirrel@99.35.194.187> In-Reply-To: References: X-Original-Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2014 22:58:34 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Re: [LML] Re: LNC4 - Looking for a great IV-P less than $250k From: "Craig Jimenez" X-Original-To: "Lancair Mailing List" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a X-Mailer: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit What are real-world speeds and ranges for ES-Ps at say 14,000' and 24,000'? The lower alt may be useful for shorter trips, ATC restrictions, or strong westerlies. Also, are there many with ThermX or TKS, and if so, what's been the experience? I'd expect a smaller percentage hit in speed from anti-ice on the ES-P than on the sleek IVP, but may be wrong. Have enough been built for there to be a good body of knowledge on maintenance and operations? I like the short takeoff numbers (at least as published) & good cabin pressure differential. Craig > You should consider an ES-P: > > - $5k/year for $1m hull/liability insurance > > - Only HPAT required - no minimum hours > > - No recorded gear up landings to date > > - Only one recorded fatal, and it appears to be medically related > > - Slightly slower, but,