X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from [207.46.163.190] (HELO na01-bn1-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.9e) with ESMTPS id 6990550 for lml@lancaironline.net; Sun, 20 Jul 2014 22:37:38 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=207.46.163.190; envelope-from=rpastusek@htii.com Received: from BY2PR07MB551.namprd07.prod.outlook.com (10.141.217.150) by BY2PR07MB472.namprd07.prod.outlook.com (10.141.220.26) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.990.7; Mon, 21 Jul 2014 02:36:59 +0000 Received: from BY2PR07MB550.namprd07.prod.outlook.com (10.141.217.145) by BY2PR07MB551.namprd07.prod.outlook.com (10.141.217.150) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.990.7; Mon, 21 Jul 2014 02:36:56 +0000 Received: from BY2PR07MB550.namprd07.prod.outlook.com ([10.141.217.145]) by BY2PR07MB550.namprd07.prod.outlook.com ([10.141.217.145]) with mapi id 15.00.0985.008; Mon, 21 Jul 2014 02:36:56 +0000 From: Robert R Pastusek To: Lancair Mailing List CC: "Jeannie Schneider (corvette38@yahoo.com)" Subject: RE: [LML] Lancair Parking at KOSH Thread-Topic: [LML] Lancair Parking at KOSH Thread-Index: AQHPpBXxqrd5g3nqWE+Kn2vYFM4BcpupwKyA Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2014 02:36:54 +0000 Message-ID: <9100a6173e7e473c923f0df9c92eb2e2@BY2PR07MB550.namprd07.prod.outlook.com> References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [72.83.43.127] x-microsoft-antispam: BCL:0;PCL:0;RULEID: x-forefront-prvs: 0279B3DD0D x-forefront-antispam-report: SFV:NSPM;SFS:(6009001)(199002)(189002)(377454003)(50986999)(76176999)(19625305001)(99396002)(87936001)(95666004)(99286002)(85306003)(101416001)(19580395003)(105586002)(54356999)(33646002)(81542001)(46102001)(74316001)(21056001)(74662001)(15975445006)(76482001)(83072002)(79102001)(4396001)(107046002)(77982001)(74502001)(64706001)(31966008)(106356001)(80022001)(76576001)(106116001)(15202345003)(2656002)(19580405001)(85852003)(20776003)(81342001)(66066001)(110136001)(92566001)(83322001)(86362001)(108616002)(24736002);DIR:OUT;SFP:;SCL:1;SRVR:BY2PR07MB551;H:BY2PR07MB550.namprd07.prod.outlook.com;FPR:;MLV:sfv;PTR:InfoNoRecords;MX:1;LANG:en; Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Return-Path: rpastusek@htii.com X-Microsoft-Antispam: BCL:0;PCL:0;RULEID: X-OriginatorOrg: htii.com Tom, There is no "definitive answer" to Oshkosh parking for Lancairs. The basic = rule in the Home Built Parking (HBP) area is: first to arrive--pretty much = your choice of parking spot; everyone else fits around you until you leave.= There is no "reserved parking" unless you pay EAA for a booth with parking= spot--as Lancair does. We've tried to park on the west side of the taxiway= that parallels RWY 18/36, near the north end. Lancair had a large tent in = this area for many years, and we always congregated near the tent. Lancair = now has a booth/display area in the main pedestrian walking area near AeroS= hell (now Phillips?) Square, so this "rally point" is no longer in place fo= r us. Some of us have tried to continue to park in this area--with mixed re= sults--but this is not available this year.=20 I have suggested we park near east/west taxiway P1, west of, and near the = north end of Rwy 18/36, and Jeannie Schneider, the (volunteer) head of HBP = parking for at least the last 10 years, is working this for us. The reason = for recommending we not park in "our traditional area" this year is because= of the Thunderbird Airshow. Available parking along the north/south parall= el taxiway will be limited, and access to any airplanes parked there will b= e restricted during show times. I understand the no-spectators-allowed "bur= n line" will be approximately at the old "walking lane" parallel to the nor= th/south taxiway within the area where we traditionally parked. This means = about half the space we've had in the past in this area is not available. A= lso, the Evolutions need to stay on or very close to a hard surface. Their = footprint/tire loading is higher than the smaller Lancairs, and they have a= particular problem if the ground is even a little bit soft.=20 SO...by parking on /near P1, we can taxi on hard surface almost all the way= ; and the EVOs can stay on hard surface all the way to the P1 parking pad = (see airfield diagram for depiction). If you want to park in this area with= the rest of us, either add "LANCAIR" to your HBP sign, or make and show a = separate "LANCAIR" sign. That's Jeannie's crew signal to direct you to the = P1 area. If you want to park elsewhere, just don't show your "LANCAIR" sign= and they will direct you to any available spot. And to re-emphasize what I wrote before: If you're being directed to go som= ewhere you don't want to go, just do it anyway...please go along with the m= arshallers to where they direct you. Then shut down and talk to them with t= he engine off--and off the main taxiways; on the grass if you can. They wil= l go overboard to get you where you want to go...most likely with a "foll= ow-me" motorcycle lead. What does not work is trying to communicate this by= yelling out of the cockpit with the engine running. What seems a simple re= quest to you is usually not, as they have to coordinate the movement of MAN= Y other airplanes in/around the HBP areas. Looking forward to seeing you all at AirVenture. Remember that our Lancair/= LOBO forum is at 1300 in Forum Tent 2 on MONDAY, and our banquet (prior res= ervations REQUIRED) starts at 1700 on Thursday evening at the Best Western = Waterfront Hotel downtown. Write me directly if you have a specific question/issue, or back through th= e LML if it might apply to all of us, and I'll do my best to answer or find= one... Bob -----Original Message----- From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Tom = Thibault Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2014 8:26 AM To: Lancair Mailing List Subject: [LML] Lancair Parking at KOSH Anyone heard the definitive answer about the location of our parking? See you there, I hope! Tom Thibault LNC2, N4XB, "Eagle Dancer" -- For archives and unsub http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml/List.html