X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2014 22:21:14 -0400 Message-ID: X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com X-PolluStop-Diagnostic: (whitelisted) X-Orig-Return-Path: george@contessastone.com X-Orig-Recipients: y/1mPiZUtbQLvIFjMGAgBeTI1B2BZQNEfeLmLIWRMpw= X-PolluStop-Score: 0.00 X-PolluStop: Scanned with Niversoft PolluStop v2.7.2 X-Junk-Score: 50 [XX] X-SpamCatcher-Score: 50 [XX] X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from mail-pd0-f175.google.com ([209.85.192.175] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.9e) with ESMTPS id 6794869 for marv@lancaironline.net; Mon, 24 Mar 2014 21:35:32 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.192.175; envelope-from=george@contessastone.com Received: by mail-pd0-f175.google.com with SMTP id x10so6106532pdj.20 for ; Mon, 24 Mar 2014 18:34:56 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:from:content-type:date:subject:to:message-id :mime-version; bh=PIIRptHYCnNmDqe04nXn6Lw6b19wwXd/bZML9RmbxZM=; b=VO/eO34hCjcHrKaONN7h30W8l9NN4EO9q8xGeGz6z+CToN9GQQ8Ywp3TvclPXKgueA oecaMdJUivk9a8imhpe/JtlGJeJbLqshJOp/R48FN8X6PJgwjlbw0Et5iLCzjv+IUPCT jNlm42dLZZipP7D/FK2+KIDEEClwuGJqV3Op9uwp+KCLlwbf4VrPX+y+3rddQJqNPDqw n2t0YWUSiveg8D+Qhatn9abO1kMK2084FbkHge8/jdRzcq5ONwVB/ghoBPL8C/tdl/RF W5DRIitn+RbwD/A1ONCTVv4BXNLF+aXEaScIhhdSKB2NhsNCStmWtIinFoNonKYWmnc0 NPfg== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlV+Im8SiQOfGP3pYs7TpoeDPEW/XJekO66E2Q6kY/VmyDqrHikwRh1JQHKjdZVE89dg+Fz X-Received: by 10.67.5.131 with SMTP id cm3mr76000977pad.92.1395711295972; Mon, 24 Mar 2014 18:34:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from [192.168.1.83] ([71.36.175.205]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id yk4sm37235387pbc.16.2014.03.24.18.34.53 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 24 Mar 2014 18:34:54 -0700 (PDT) From: George catalano Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_995D1956-A429-42D8-AC0C-A2ADD31C0970" X-Original-Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2014 18:34:22 -0700 Subject: formation flying with dissimilar aircraft X-Original-To: marv@lancaironline.net X-Original-Message-Id: <5E65A226-7598-4E43-9841-96DED001E3D9@contessastone.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1283) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1283) --Apple-Mail=_995D1956-A429-42D8-AC0C-A2ADD31C0970 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii My experience can be summarized with the following statement - be very = very careful and be very well briefed.=20 I have only flown my 360 in formation with Yak 52's and CJ-6 with the = 360 and 400 HP engines. The speed differences, turning radiuses and = accelerations and deceleration are all quite dramatic which make it = harder than normal. It really wasn't much fun to be blunt.=20 I avoided the formation landing since they are all very slow and tight = in the pattern and stop very quickly once planted. Figured it just was a = bad idea or an accident waiting to happen for me anyway. I used to do a = formation air show routine in a T-34 when I was younger and we took and = landed in formation - it was a breeze since they were identical = airplanes.=20 The good news was that you could stay on your post easily since you were = running 50% power most of the time so maneuvering was easy. Lastly their = fat, low wing loading planes didn't handle the turbulence like ours do, = so it added to the circus. You don't realize how well you slice through = turbulence until fly along side a symmetric winged Yak or even a fat = bottom winged Yak. Made me appreciate our little rockets even more. I suspect flying with RV's would fair better - probably a lot better. Be very careful is all I can say. LNC2 - 150 hours new and still all good George Catalano Principle at Contessa Stone george@contessastone.com Cell =3D 602 524 1534 Fax =3D 480 483 3298 CONTESSA STONE 10229 N Scottsdale Rd suite E Scottsdale, AZ 85258 www.contessastone.com --Apple-Mail=_995D1956-A429-42D8-AC0C-A2ADD31C0970 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii My = experience can be summarized with the following statement - be very very = careful and be very well briefed. 
I have only flown my 360 in = formation with Yak 52's and CJ-6 with the 360 and 400 HP engines. The = speed differences, turning radiuses and accelerations and deceleration = are all quite dramatic which make it harder than normal. It really = wasn't much fun to be blunt. 
I avoided the formation landing = since they are all very slow and tight in the pattern and stop very = quickly once planted. Figured it just was a bad idea or an accident = waiting to happen for me anyway. I used to do a formation air show = routine in a T-34 when I was younger and we took and landed in formation = - it was a breeze since they were identical = airplanes. 
The good news was that you could stay on your = post easily since you were running 50% power most of the time so = maneuvering was easy. Lastly their fat, low wing loading planes didn't = handle the turbulence like ours do, so it added to the circus. You don't = realize how well you slice through turbulence until fly along side a = symmetric winged Yak or even a fat bottom winged Yak. Made me appreciate = our little rockets even more.

I suspect flying = with RV's would fair better - probably a lot = better.

Be very careful is all I can = say.

LNC2 - 150 hours new and still all = good


George = Catalano
george@contessastone.com
Cell =3D 602 = 524 1534
10229 N Scottsdale Rd suite E
Scottsdale, AZ 85258
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