X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2014 19:31:38 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from bosmailout10.eigbox.net ([66.96.189.10] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.8) with ESMTP id 6693119 for lml@lancaironline.net; Sat, 18 Jan 2014 18:50:56 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=66.96.189.10; envelope-from=SRS0=6fwOY0=WY=trepicone.com=aviation@eigbox.net Received: from bosmailscan18.eigbox.net ([10.20.15.18]) by bosmailout10.eigbox.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1W4fee-0004pQ-WE for lml@lancaironline.net; Sat, 18 Jan 2014 18:50:20 -0500 Received: from bosimpout03.eigbox.net ([10.20.55.3]) by bosmailscan18.eigbox.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1W4fee-0008LU-4b for lml@lancaironline.net; Sat, 18 Jan 2014 18:50:20 -0500 Received: from bosauthsmtp03.eigbox.net ([10.20.18.3]) by bosimpout03.eigbox.net with NO UCE id FbqC1n00803yW7601bqCLQ; Sat, 18 Jan 2014 18:50:12 -0500 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=NPBXCjGg c=1 sm=1 a=0ZlFnCqh3XCek+qOoT6jgg==:17 a=Dv1NhFqZV4oA:10 a=-dt6xa-qqm0A:10 a=aiMX60jYAAAA:8 a=2VCtx2A_xYQA:10 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=fLuM78UsAAAA:8 a=5Up8faWwAAAA:8 a=Ia-xEzejAAAA:8 a=I4Ra51fqM1woDcecVw4A:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=QIlsJIKqaXMA:10 a=CVU0O5Kb7MsA:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=3jk_M6PjnjYA:10 a=v6MMM96S_sUA:10 a=olE9XMBCznfx61xZC1MA:9 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=6uKCkKhFq2wXOH2GoQX8aA==:117 X-EN-OrigOutIP: 10.20.18.3 X-EN-IMPSID: FbqC1n00803yW7601bqCLQ Received: from 107-214-139-6.lightspeed.clmboh.sbcglobal.net ([107.214.139.6]:49210 helo=[192.168.1.71]) by bosauthsmtp03.eigbox.net with esmtpa (Exim) id 1W4feV-0006fD-W5 for lml@lancaironline.net; Sat, 18 Jan 2014 18:50:12 -0500 Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Panel References: From: Joe Trepicone Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-BE0CAB53-1AAA-42C5-B294-D0CF0A5DF69E X-Mailer: iPad Mail (11B554a) In-Reply-To: X-Original-Message-Id: X-Original-Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2014 18:50:10 -0500 X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) X-EN-UserInfo: 4ac58bc548d0d089cf022bf861c72b41:931c98230c6409dcc37fa7e93b490c27 X-EN-AuthUser: aviation@trepicone.com X-Original-Sender: Joe Trepicone X-EN-OrigIP: 107.214.139.6 X-EN-OrigHost: 107-214-139-6.lightspeed.clmboh.sbcglobal.net --Apple-Mail-BE0CAB53-1AAA-42C5-B294-D0CF0A5DF69E Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > Jim & others: >=20 > I am using John Carmen to build my panel for my Lancair, John is out of Fl= orida. John has been working with me on my panel and the entire aircraft el= ectrical system on my aircraft. What I like best with John Is his ability t= o integrate the entire aircraft into the panel design. I'm defiantly not an= electrical or avionics expert by any means. He is not just going to send m= e a panel and a box of coiled wire and a note that says good luck with insta= ll, he is considering every electrical system in the aircraft, and I am glad= for it - John found a few critical items that needed to be corrected. He= 'll visit me here in Ohio as needed to complete and install the panel. (He= 'll be here next weekend with temps predicted in the low teens and that sayi= ng a lot for a Florida native!). He is an A&P and knows lancairs. He also d= oes Lancair annuals. =20 >=20 > Another benefit I found with John is the schematics. John is creating for m= e an entire set of schematics for my entire aircraft not just the panel. Jo= hn=E2=80=99s modular concept is a great idea, the frame of the panel will st= ay in aircraft and each sub panel will be able to be removed from the panel,= this will be so nice, if and when I need to get behind the panel. We haven= 't fired up my panel yet but so far the cost has been very reasonable and th= e quality of the work has been spectacular, I can tell he has the proper too= ls and skills.=20 >=20 > Send him an email johnLcarmen@gmail.com He has a linkedin profile as w= ell. Just thought I'd pass on my personal experience.=20 >=20 Joe Trepicone. Lancair IVPT =20 Sent from my iPad > On Jan 18, 2014, at 2:41 PM, wrote: >=20 > Posted for "Jim Nordin" : >=20 > > I'm contemplating having Aerotronics (or someone) build a panel for me.=20= > >=20 > > Anybody have comments on quality [Aerotronics (or someone)] and costs? > > Yes I know there are nearly infinite variations.=20 > >=20 > > IFR with glass (Dynon or Garmin) and steam backup. AP, traffic avoidance= > > maybe. > >=20 > > I'll not deliver the airplane there but have them build the panel and I'= ll > > install here in Houston. > >=20 > > Ball park comments is what I'm looking for. > >=20 > > Jim > >=20 >=20 > [ > I've worked on several projects that used Aerotronics for the panels, most= recently, the all-glass one we've put into DIemech's RV10 which will be our= demonstrator for the new PBS TP100 turboprop engine. Their workmanship is t= op notch, as is the quality of their finished product, including the documen= tation. Their support during and after the installation is first class, and= everyone at their facility treats you like an old friend whenever you call.= Their prices are competitive but the value of their total package is price= less. If I could say more good things about them I would. And BTW, if you'= re serious about glass, don't fail to check out Advanced Flight Systems... t= hat's what we went with for the RV as the engine operates on a CAN bus and t= he folks at AFS were the only ones willing to tackle that implementation. T= heir products, documentation and support are also first class, And no, I do= n't have any financial interest in either organization, I'm just happy to sh= are my feelings about people from whom I've received exemplary service. I h= ope this helps. > ] > -- >=20 > For archives and unsub http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml/List.htm= l --Apple-Mail-BE0CAB53-1AAA-42C5-B294-D0CF0A5DF69E Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Jim & others:

I am using John Ca= rmen to build my panel for my Lancair, John is out of Florida.  Jo= hn has been working with me on my panel and the entire aircraft electrical s= ystem on my aircraft.  What I like best with John Is his ability t= o integrate the entire aircraft into the panel design.  I'm defian= tly not an electrical or avionics expert by any means.  He is not just g= oing to send me a panel and a box of coiled wire and a note that says good l= uck with install, he is considering every electrical system in the aircraft,= and I am glad for it -  John found a few critical items that need= ed to be corrected.   He'll visit me here in Ohio as needed t= o complete and install the panel.   (He'll be here next weekend with te= mps predicted in the low teens and that saying a lot for a Florida native!).= He is an A&P and knows lancairs.  He also does Lancair annuals. &n= bsp;

Another benefit I found with John is the sche= matics. John is creating for me an entire set of schematics for my entire ai= rcraft not just the panel.  John=E2=80=99s modular concept is a gr= eat idea, the frame of the panel will stay in aircraft and each sub panel wi= ll be able to be removed from the panel, this will be so nice, if and when I= need to get behind the panel.  We haven't fired up my panel yet b= ut so far the cost has been very reasonable and the quality of the work has b= een spectacular, I can tell he has the proper tools and skills. 

Send him an email   johnLcarmen@gmail.com    He has a= linkedin profile as well.  Just thought I'd pass on my personal experi= ence. 

Joe Trepicone.  Lancair IVPT  


Sent from my iPad

On Jan 18, 2014, at= 2:41 PM, <marv@lancair.net> w= rote:

Posted for "Jim No= rdin" <panelmaker@earthlink.n= et>:

> I'm contemplating having Aerotronics (or someone) build a panel for me.
= >
> Anybody have comments on quality [Aerotronics (or someone)] and costs?
> Yes I know there are nearly infinite variations.
>=
> IFR with glass (Dynon or Garmin) and steam backup. AP, traffic avoidance
> maybe.
>
> I'll not deliver the airplane ther= e but have them build the panel and I'll
> install here in Houston.
>
> Ball park comments is what I'm looking for.
>= ;
> Jim
>

[
I've worked on several projects that used Aerotronics for the panels, most= recently, the all-glass one we've put into DIemech's RV10 which will be our demonstrator for the new PBS TP100 turboprop engine.  = ;Their workmanship is top notch, as is the quality of their finished product, including the documentation.  Their support during and after t= he installation is first class, and everyone at their facility treats you like an old friend whenever you call.  Their prices are competitive but= the value of their total package is priceless.  If I could say more good things about them I would.  And BTW, if you're serious about glass= , don't fail to check out Advanced Flight Systems... that's what we went with for the RV as the engine operates on a CAN bus and the folks at AFS wer= e the only ones willing to tackle that implementation.  Their products, documentation and support are also first class,  And no, I do= n't have any financial interest in either organization, I'm just happy to share my feelings about people from whom I've received exemplary service. &n= bsp;I hope this helps.  <marv>
]

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