Return-Path: Received: from web4802.mail.yahoo.com ([216.115.105.225]) by ns1.olsusa.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-64832U3500L350S0V35) with SMTP id com for ; Sat, 23 Sep 2000 13:04:58 -0400 Received: from [4.16.176.86] by web4802.mail.yahoo.com; Sat, 23 Sep 2000 10:11:55 PDT Message-ID: <20000923171155.5428.qmail@web4802.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2000 10:11:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Charlie Kohler Subject: DAR/ Training To: Lancair List X-Mailing-List: lancair.list@olsusa.com Reply-To: lancair.list@olsusa.com Mime-Version: 1.0 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> << Lancair Builders' Mail List >> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> Hi Mike, Regarding your question about the FAA determination of the rule in 8130.2D change 1, paragraph 3 NOTE , that says, "the FAA requires a minimum of 25 hours of flight testing for an aircraft with a type certificated engine and propeller installed or a minimum of 40 hours for a non-type certificated engine and propeller". Does your engine have a type certificate? Does your propeller have a type certificate? If they do, I believe a reasonable interpretation would be that they are eligible for the 25 hour phase one. I am sure you can find individuals who will add to this requirement, and the very next statement in the NOTE is "Inspectors may assign longer test hours when it is determined necessary to determine compliance with FAR is 91.113 (b)". Regarding the flight training, I do not believe you will find an explanation anywhere for 8130.2D Chg 1(10) "--unless that person is essential to the purpose of the flight". Plain English would tell me that as PIC, I have the right to make this determination. If it is to be determined by the FAA, then it would have to be spelled out. You can ask for a determination, as I have, but the bottom line is--- "don't mess up" and "y'all be careful out there!" You bring up an interesting and little-known point, the FAA keeps a dossier for each certificate holder. It is referenced when issues come up that the Agency needs to know who they are dealing with. Several negatives will trigger enforcement action when a clean file may be passed by. They know who you've worked for--- what your record is (line checks- rating rides- etc) even A&P stuff. When you apply for a designee, Pilot examiner- or DAR-- this is where they go first. Nuff said?? ===== Charlie Kohler >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LML website: http://www.olsusa.com/Users/Mkaye/maillist.html LML Builders' Bookstore: http://www.buildersbooks.com/lancair Please send your photos and drawings to marvkaye@olsusa.com. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>