X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2013 09:23:06 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from mail-ie0-f179.google.com ([209.85.223.179] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.7) with ESMTPS id 6609729 for lml@lancaironline.net; Fri, 22 Nov 2013 07:40:18 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.223.179; envelope-from=mwsletten@gmail.com Received: by mail-ie0-f179.google.com with SMTP id x13so1999541ief.10 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 2013 04:39:42 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.50.111.74 with SMTP id ig10mr2228100igb.56.1385123982420; Fri, 22 Nov 2013 04:39:42 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.226.166 with HTTP; Fri, 22 Nov 2013 04:39:42 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: X-Original-Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2013 06:39:42 -0600 X-Original-Message-ID: Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Sleep apnea home sleep study - - cheap From: Mark Sletten X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e01294576f12fa604ebc34eab --089e01294576f12fa604ebc34eab Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 And if you decide for yourself you're too tired to fly the bureaucrats won't have anyone to tell what to do! On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 7:00 PM, wrote: > but if you do that then the Sleep Apnea consortium will lose out on sleep > studies! > > > -----Original Message----- > From: George Braly > To: lml > Sent: Thu, Nov 21, 2013 6:50 am > Subject: [LML] Re: Sleep apnea home sleep study - - cheap > > > You can get one of the recent finger pulse oximeters that has recording data > and a blue tooth transfer. > > Wear it on your finger over night. Plot out your heart rate and PSO2 for the > entire night. > > It should show up episodes of sleep apnea. > > Those devices are now about $50 /each. Software on the web. > > I tried that. My HR stayed steady at about 55 to 60 all night (except at 0300 > when I got up to empty the bladder). PSO2 never dropped below 93. Typically > 94-96. > > I sleep on my back. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net ] On Behalf Of Ted Noel > Sent: Monday, November 18, 2013 2:44 PM > To: lml@lancaironline.net > Subject: [LML] Re: Sleep apnea > > As a physician who has sleep apnea, I will vouch for all the medical issues... > > But one thing has been left out. If treated (typically with nasal CPAP, which I > use), OSA patients essentially revert to normal. The problem is undiagnosed > sleep apnea. So if you are a snorer, get a sleep study. You may find you have > OSA, and treatment will cut your cardiac risk in half. > > Ted Noel MD > N540TF > > > On 11/18/2013 11:00 AM, Jay Phillips wrote: > > I don't disagree with you on anything you wrote, Doug. > > > > The article states that *all* pilots will be subject to this testing. > > BMI has nothing to do with it other than being the "camel's nose under > > the tent". So I will be forced to undergo this testing, at my expense, > > in order to continue exercising my pilot 'privileges'. > > > > Jay Phillips > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net ] On Behalf Of > > R Douglas Owen > > Sent: Monday, November 18, 2013 6:45 AM > > To: lml@lancaironline.net > > Subject: [LML] Sleep apnea > > > > I have a comment regarding the recent FAA rule regarding sleep apnea. > > > -- > For archives and unsub http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml/List.html > > > -- > For archives and unsub http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml/List.html > > --089e01294576f12fa604ebc34eab Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1
And if you decide for yourself you're too tired to fly the bureaucrats won't have anyone to tell what to do!




On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 7:00 PM, <vtailjeff@aol.com> wrote:
but if you do that then the Sleep Apnea consortium will lose out on sleep studies!


-----Original Message-----
From: George Braly <gwbraly@gami.com>
To: lml <lml@lancaironline.net>
Sent: Thu, Nov 21, 2013 6:50 am
Subject: [LML] Re: Sleep apnea home sleep study - - cheap


You can get one of the recent  finger pulse oximeters that has recording data 
and a blue tooth transfer.

Wear it on your finger over night.   Plot out your  heart rate and PSO2 for the 
entire night.

It should show up episodes of sleep apnea.  

Those devices are now about $50 /each.     Software on the web.

I tried that.  My  HR stayed steady at about 55 to 60 all night (except at 0300 
when I got up to empty the bladder).  PSO2 never dropped below 93.  Typically 
94-96. 

I sleep on my back.



-----Original Message-----
From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Ted Noel
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2013 2:44 PM
To: lml@lancaironline.net
Subject: [LML] Re: Sleep apnea

As a physician who has sleep apnea, I will vouch for all the medical issues...

But one thing has been left out. If treated (typically with nasal CPAP, which I 
use), OSA patients essentially revert to normal. The problem is undiagnosed 
sleep apnea. So if you are a snorer, get a sleep study. You may find you have 
OSA, and treatment will cut your cardiac risk in half.

Ted Noel MD
N540TF


On 11/18/2013 11:00 AM, Jay Phillips wrote:
> I don't disagree with you on anything you wrote, Doug.
>
> The article states that *all* pilots will be subject to this testing. 
> BMI has nothing to do with it other than being the "camel's nose under 
> the tent". So I will be forced to undergo this testing, at my expense, 
> in order to continue exercising my pilot 'privileges'.
>
> Jay Phillips
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of 
> R Douglas Owen
> Sent: Monday, November 18, 2013 6:45 AM
> To: lml@lancaironline.net
> Subject: [LML] Sleep apnea
>
> I have a comment regarding the recent FAA rule regarding sleep apnea.


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