X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2013 20:00:12 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from omr-d10.mx.aol.com ([205.188.108.134] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.7) with ESMTPS id 6608764 for lml@lancaironline.net; Thu, 21 Nov 2013 12:23:02 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=205.188.108.134; envelope-from=vtailjeff@aol.com Received: from mtaomg-da03.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-da03.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.139]) by omr-d10.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id DC1C570049899 for ; Thu, 21 Nov 2013 12:22:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-mnd001a.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mnd001.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.107.1]) by mtaomg-da03.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 34B78E000088 for ; Thu, 21 Nov 2013 12:22:27 -0500 (EST) References: X-Original-To: lml@lancaironline.net Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Sleep apnea home sleep study - - cheap In-Reply-To: X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: vtailjeff@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--------MB_8D0B4F5623BD3A3_9A8_EE9B1_webmailstg-m02.sysops.aol.com" X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 38203-STANDARD Received: from 12.110.229.82 by webmailstg-m02.sysops.aol.com (64.12.225.54) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Thu, 21 Nov 2013 12:22:26 -0500 X-Original-Message-Id: <8D0B4F5622D8B5D-9A8-455E9@webmailstg-m02.sysops.aol.com> X-Originating-IP: [12.110.229.82] X-Original-Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2013 12:22:26 -0500 (EST) x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d338b528e41535861 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ----------MB_8D0B4F5623BD3A3_9A8_EE9B1_webmailstg-m02.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" but if you do that then the Sleep Apnea consortium will lose out on sleep s= tudies! -----Original Message----- From: George Braly To: lml Sent: Thu, Nov 21, 2013 6:50 am Subject: [LML] Re: Sleep apnea home sleep study - - cheap You can get one of the recent finger pulse oximeters that has recording da= ta=20 and a blue tooth transfer. Wear it on your finger over night. Plot out your heart rate and PSO2 for= the=20 entire night. It should show up episodes of sleep apnea. =20 Those devices are now about $50 /each. Software on the web. I tried that. My HR stayed steady at about 55 to 60 all night (except at = 0300=20 when I got up to empty the bladder). PSO2 never dropped below 93. Typical= ly=20 94-96.=20 I sleep on my back. -----Original Message----- From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Ted = Noel Sent: Monday, November 18, 2013 2:44 PM To: lml@lancaironline.net Subject: [LML] Re: Sleep apnea As a physician who has sleep apnea, I will vouch for all the medical issues= ... But one thing has been left out. If treated (typically with nasal CPAP, whi= ch I=20 use), OSA patients essentially revert to normal. The problem is undiagnosed= =20 sleep apnea. So if you are a snorer, get a sleep study. You may find you ha= ve=20 OSA, and treatment will cut your cardiac risk in half. Ted Noel MD N540TF On 11/18/2013 11:00 AM, Jay Phillips wrote: > I don't disagree with you on anything you wrote, Doug. > > The article states that *all* pilots will be subject to this testing.=20 > BMI has nothing to do with it other than being the "camel's nose under=20 > the tent". So I will be forced to undergo this testing, at my expense,=20 > in order to continue exercising my pilot 'privileges'. > > Jay Phillips > > -----Original Message----- > From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of=20 > R Douglas Owen > Sent: Monday, November 18, 2013 6:45 AM > To: lml@lancaironline.net > Subject: [LML] Sleep apnea > > I have a comment regarding the recent FAA rule regarding sleep apnea. -- For archives and unsub http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml/List.html -- For archives and unsub http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml/List.html =20 ----------MB_8D0B4F5623BD3A3_9A8_EE9B1_webmailstg-m02.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" but if you do that then the= Sleep Apnea consortium will lose out on sleep studies!


-----= Original Message-----
From: George Braly <gwbraly@gami.com>
To: lml <lml@lancaironline.net>
Sent: Thu, Nov 21, 2013 6:50 am
Subject: [LML] Re: Sleep apnea home sleep study - - cheap


You can get one of the recent  finger pulse oximeters that has recording da=
ta=20
and a blue tooth transfer.

Wear it on your finger over night.   Plot out your  heart rate and PSO2 for=
 the=20
entire night.

It should show up episodes of sleep apnea. =20

Those devices are now about $50 /each.     Software on the web.

I tried that.  My  HR stayed steady at about 55 to 60 all night (except at =
0300=20
when I got up to empty the bladder).  PSO2 never dropped below 93.  Typical=
ly=20
94-96.=20

I sleep on my back.



-----Original Message-----
From: Lancair Mailing List [mailt=
o:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Ted Noel
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2013 2:44 PM
To: lml@lancaironline.net
Subject: [LML] Re: Sleep apnea

As a physician who has sleep apnea, I will vouch for all the medical issues=
...

But one thing has been left out. If treated (typically with nasal CPAP, whi=
ch I=20
use), OSA patients essentially revert to normal. The problem is undiagnosed=
=20
sleep apnea. So if you are a snorer, get a sleep study. You may find you ha=
ve=20
OSA, and treatment will cut your cardiac risk in half.

Ted Noel MD
N540TF


On 11/18/2013 11:00 AM, Jay Phillips wrote:
> I don't disagree with you on anything you wrote, Doug.
>
> The article states that *all* pilots will be subject to this testing.=
=20
> BMI has nothing to do with it other than being the "camel's nose under=
=20
> the tent". So I will be forced to undergo this testing, at my expense,=
=20
> in order to continue exercising my pilot 'privileges'.
>
> Jay Phillips
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Lancair Mailing List [=
mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of=20
> R Douglas Owen
> Sent: Monday, November 18, 2013 6:45 AM
> To: lml@lancaironline.net
> Subject: [LML] Sleep apnea
>
> I have a comment regarding the recent FAA rule regarding sleep apnea.


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