X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2013 10:40:25 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from nm37.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com ([98.138.229.30] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.7) with ESMTPS id 6607064 for lml@lancaironline.net; Wed, 20 Nov 2013 10:36:35 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=98.138.229.30; envelope-from=casey.gary@yahoo.com Received: from [127.0.0.1] by nm37.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 20 Nov 2013 15:35:58 -0000 Received: from [98.138.100.102] by nm37.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 20 Nov 2013 15:33:16 -0000 Received: from [98.138.226.160] by tm101.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 20 Nov 2013 15:33:16 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1061.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 20 Nov 2013 15:33:16 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-4 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 470682.8453.bm@omp1061.mail.ne1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 77154 invoked by uid 60001); 20 Nov 2013 15:33:16 -0000 DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=pwN19pwJxuAD7adFX3Fp2OlUalT1aT+JMun/CusW6/4ng9a7WAP0CHFWopSrIwUuhmR2RhHQOVFz90QtR2cmTrBd3IolbXhC0p6eTm3og0+T8ebllP00fOD8ghBaaT6TV0bGT1c2JUccYq6W25cy0wx0vGyx0DoV4n30ziIziP8=; X-YMail-OSG: abEkW1sVM1lSzJS9u04r9Loh9ZeWyAz7i2gvp5G6pbkelbF t3.aaIKonTTkdW7xNcxRicp9wpamjmSqvfYH8 Received: from [97.92.63.83] by web120103.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 20 Nov 2013 07:33:15 PST X-Rocket-MIMEInfo: 002.001,SSBjZXJ0YWlubHkgYWdyZWUgd2l0aCBEYW4gaW4gdGhhdCBpdCBtYWtlcyBzZW5zZSB0byBjb2xsZWN0IHRoZSB0cmFwcGVkIG9pbCwgYnV0IG5vdCBiZWNhdXNlIGl0IGlzICJiYWQiIHN0dWZmIChpdCdzIHRoZSBzYW1lIHN0dWZmIHRoYXQgaXMgaW4gdGhlIGNyYW5rY2FzZSkuIMKgTXkgcG9pbnQgd2FzIHRoYXQgdGhlIGJpZ2dlciByZWFzb24sIGFzIERvbiByZWxhdGVzIGJlbG93LCBpcyB0aGF0IGdldHRpbmcgdGhlIGNvbGxlY3RlZCBvaWwgdG8gZHJhaW4gYmFjayBpbnRvIHRoZSBlbmdpbmUgaXMgYSABMAEBAQE- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.166.601 X-Original-Message-ID: <1384961595.74498.YahooMailNeo@web120103.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> X-Original-Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2013 07:33:15 -0800 (PST) From: Gary Casey Reply-To: Gary Casey Subject: Re: Engine air oil separator Andair X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-955686164-1566481589-1384961595=:74498" ---955686164-1566481589-1384961595=:74498 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I certainly agree with Dan in that it makes sense to collect the trapped oi= l, but not because it is "bad" stuff (it's the same stuff that is in the cr= ankcase). =A0My point was that the bigger reason, as Don relates below, is = that getting the collected oil to drain back into the engine is a potential= problem and even a possible hazard. =A0Done incorrectly, the pressure drop= s in the system can actually pull oil out of the sump instead of letting it= drain into the sump. =A0That, combined with the extra oil lines and fittin= gs, can make it a bad idea. =A0My thought is to run a hose down to an easil= y- reached location and put a plug in it. =A0Then it can be occasionally dr= ained, like every ten hours or so. =A0I would suggest even doing that witho= ut a collector reservoir - just let it collect in the separator itself. =A0= What's wrong with that?=0AGary Casey=0A=0AFrom Don:=0AI had a custom separa= tor mad for aeiok550.never got it to work.tried=0Aeverything.think in retro= spect the drop from separator to reentry point was=0Ainadeqate(about 2 inch= es)=0A=0A=0AOn Nov 19, 2013 1:36 PM, "Dan Schaefer" = wrote:=0A=0A> I agree with Kai and Gordon. Why, when you have the option t= o dump the=0A> gunk in the trash at your next check would you stuff it back= in the engine?=0A> Oil is one of the cheapest consumable a pilot can put i= n an engine so why=0A> bother to scrimp?=0A>=0A> It is so easy to get rid o= f the burned crap, in my humble opinion it=0A> should just go in the trash.= =0A>=0A> Dan Schaefer=0A ---955686164-1566481589-1384961595=:74498 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I certainly agree with Dan in that it makes sense to col= lect the trapped oil, but not because it is "bad" stuff (it's the same stuf= f that is in the crankcase).  My point was that the bigger reason, as = Don relates below, is that getting the collected oil to drain back into the= engine is a potential problem and even a possible hazard.  Done incor= rectly, the pressure drops in the system can actually pull oil out of the s= ump instead of letting it drain into the sump.  That, combined with th= e extra oil lines and fittings, can make it a bad idea.  My thought is= to run a hose down to an easily- reached location and put a plug in it. &n= bsp;Then it can be occasionally drained, like every ten hours or so.  = I would suggest even doing that without a collector reservoir - just let it collect in the separator itself.  What's wrong with that?
Gary Casey

From Don:
I had a custom separator mad for aeiok550.never got it = to work.tried
= everything.think i= n retrospect the drop from separator to reentry point was
inadeqate(about 2 inches)


On Nov 19, 2013 1:36 PM, "Dan= Schaefer" <dfs155= @roadrunner.com> wrote:
<= br style=3D"font-family: monospace; font-size: 13px;">> I agree with Kai and Gordon. Why, = when you have the option to dump the
> gunk in the trash at your next check would you stuff it back in t= he engine?
> Oil is one of the = cheapest consumable a pilot can put in an engine so why
> bother to scrimp?
>
> It is s= o easy to get rid of the burned crap, in my humble opinion it
> should just go in the trash.
>
> Dan Schaefer
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