X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2013 16:05:17 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from p3plsmtpa07-04.prod.phx3.secureserver.net ([173.201.192.233] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.7) with ESMTP id 6606174 for lml@lancaironline.net; Tue, 19 Nov 2013 15:28:20 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=173.201.192.233; envelope-from=jayph@fastairplane.net Received: from shuriken ([69.92.48.82]) by p3plsmtpa07-04.prod.phx3.secureserver.net with id rYTi1m00R1mPo4M01YTjYj; Tue, 19 Nov 2013 13:27:43 -0700 From: "Jay Phillips" X-Original-To: "'Lancair Mailing List'" References: In-Reply-To: Subject: RE: [LML] Re: iPad Mini X-Original-Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2013 13:27:45 -0700 X-Original-Message-ID: <024801cee565$ceeeb0d0$6ccc1270$@fastairplane.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0249_01CEE52B.22911150" X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AQKIP2SE/zhAaUZFSqq8U+WCGop3u5i6TAtg Content-Language: en-us This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0249_01CEE52B.22911150 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I just bought a new iPad Air (iPad 5). I got Wi-fi + G. I disabled G = because I don=E2=80=99t use/need it. The GPS still works. If I need to = use the cell network to connect I use the mobile access point on my = phone. Avoids paying for cell service on the iPad. =20 If you don=E2=80=99t have the GPS, it calculates an approximate position = using wi-fi sources. This is not the same nor near as accurate as GPS. =20 Jay Phillips =20 From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of = John Barrett Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2013 12:53 PM To: lml@lancaironline.net Subject: [LML] Re: iPad Mini =20 Thanks for the response, PC. I think I'll try turning off my 3G on my = iPad 2 and see what happens. =20 LMLrs take note. We may be spending $ on 3G that we don't have to = spend.=20 =20 John Sent from my iPad =20 On Nov 19, 2013, at 10:16 AM, "PC" wrote: John, I don't know what else to tell you, but my iPad2 tracks!!! It is wifi = only with 64GB of memory. I use ForeFlight and have flown all over the US and it tracks. It = tracks while taxiing on airfield diagrams, it tracks on approach plates, = it tracks enroute. And it is not connected via Bluetooth or to any other external device = like Bad Elf. I use it while traveling in the car with a number of APS to get = directions and find restaurants, hotels etc. It tracks. =20 Perhaps I have the only iPad2 (wifi only) that works, perhaps whoever = built my iPad inadvertently made a mistake. I don't know. What I do know is that it tracks.=20 =20 I might add that this same discussion took place a few years ago on LML, = and the same kind of disparity took place. =20 PC =20 =20 From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of = Jay Phillips Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2013 7:15 AM To: lml@lancaironline.net Subject: [LML] Re: iPad Mini =20 The Wi-fi only ipad does not have an internal GPS, so you would need an = external GPS to have georeferencing. The Wi-fi+G model does have an = internal gps. =20 Jay Phillips =20 From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of = John Barrett Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2013 6:10 AM To: lml@lancaironline.net Subject: [LML] Re: iPad Mini =20 That's good news to me, PC. Just to be sure, are you saying you are = georeferenced without a blue tooth or other GPS hooked up to the iPad? =20 Thanks, John =20 Sent from my iPad =20 On Nov 18, 2013, at 12:44 PM, "PC" wrote: Greetings, I have used an iPad2 (64G, WiFi only) since it came out very = successfully with ForeFlight. It georeferences fully on charts and = plates. The top of my canopy of my 360 is lined with dark window film that makes = the iPad screen easily seen. =20 PC Davis N356PC ------=_NextPart_000_0249_01CEE52B.22911150 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I just bought a new iPad Air (iPad 5). I got = Wi-fi + G. I disabled G because I don=E2=80=99t use/need it. The GPS = still works. If I need to use the cell network to connect I use the = mobile access point on my phone. Avoids paying for cell service on the = iPad.

 

If you don=E2=80=99t = have the GPS, it calculates an approximate position using wi-fi sources. = This is not the same nor near as accurate as = GPS.

 

Jay = Phillips

 

From:= = Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of = John Barrett
Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2013 12:53 = PM
To: lml@lancaironline.net
Subject: [LML] Re: iPad = Mini

 

Thanks = for the response, PC. I think I'll try turning off my 3G on my iPad 2 = and see what happens.

 

LMLrs take note.  We may be spending $ on 3G that = we don't have to spend. 

 

John

Sent from my iPad

 


On Nov 19, 2013, at = 10:16 AM, "PC" <pcdavis@shasta.com> = wrote:

John,

I don't = know what else to tell you, but my iPad2 tracks!!!  It is wifi only = with 64GB of memory.

I use ForeFlight and have flown = all over the US and it tracks.  It tracks while taxiing on airfield = diagrams, it tracks on approach plates, it tracks = enroute.

And it is not connected = via Bluetooth or to any other external device like Bad = Elf.

I use it while traveling in the = car with a number of APS to get directions and find restaurants, hotels = etc.  It tracks.

 

Perhaps = I have the only iPad2 (wifi only) that works, perhaps whoever built my = iPad inadvertently made a mistake.  I don't = know.

What I do know is that it = tracks.

 

I might = add that this same discussion took place a few years ago on LML,  = and the same kind of disparity took place.

 

PC

 

 

From:= = Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] = On Behalf Of Jay Phillips
Sent: Tuesday, November 19, = 2013 7:15 AM
To: lml@lancaironline.net
Sub= ject: [LML] Re: iPad Mini

 

The Wi-fi only ipad does not have an internal = GPS, so you would need an external GPS to have georeferencing. The = Wi-fi+G model does have an internal gps.

 

Jay = Phillips

 

From:= = Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] = On Behalf Of John Barrett
Sent: Tuesday, November 19, = 2013 6:10 AM
To: lml@lancaironline.net
Sub= ject: [LML] Re: iPad Mini

 

That's = good news to me, PC.  Just to be sure, are you saying you are = georeferenced without a blue tooth or other GPS hooked up to the = iPad?

 

Thanks,

John

 



Sent from my iPad

 


On Nov 18, 2013, at = 12:44 PM, "PC" <pcdavis@shasta.com> = wrote:

Greetings,

I have = used an iPad2 (64G, WiFi only) since it came out very successfully with = ForeFlight.  It georeferences fully on charts and = plates.

The top of my canopy of my = 360 is lined with dark window film that makes the iPad screen easily = seen.

 

PC Davis

N356PC

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