X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2013 19:56:49 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from blu0-omc3-s31.blu0.hotmail.com ([65.55.116.106] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.7) with ESMTP id 6604758 for lml@lancaironline.net; Mon, 18 Nov 2013 19:35:11 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=65.55.116.106; envelope-from=gary21sn@hotmail.com Received: from BLU172-DS7 ([65.55.116.74]) by blu0-omc3-s31.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Mon, 18 Nov 2013 16:34:35 -0800 X-TMN: [6Y6qOrDrTry0ZWnzV3DlTMB/RGQXk3io] X-Originating-Email: [gary21sn@hotmail.com] X-Original-Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: gary21sn@hotmail.com From: "Gary Edwards" X-Original-To: "Lancair Mailing List" Subject: Difference between 235 & 320 airframes X-Original-Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2013 16:34:35 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_01EE_01CEE47C.11286260" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: MSN 9 X-MimeOLE: Produced By MSN MimeOLE V10.50.0019.1000 Seal-Send-Time: Mon, 18 Nov 2013 16:34:35 -0800 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Nov 2013 00:34:35.0758 (UTC) FILETIME=[1F6F08E0:01CEE4BF] This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_01EE_01CEE47C.11286260 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =20 To expand on Bill's description, other major items the 320/360 airframe = is: =20 1 inch wider 9 inches longer Larger rudder (also shaped differently Larger canopy frame & glass (more head room) Longer gear legs Flap motor mounted behind the seat Longer depth baggage area (baggage bulkhead farther rear) Smaller header tank Larger wing tanks Beefier horiz. stab spar Additional tail cone bulkhead Screw in tie down rings (235's have release pin rings) Removable wing tips Larger instrument panel Different shaped instrument panel Different shaped nose gear tunnel (smaller) Gear hydraulics plumbed different Rudder cable routing different Gear wells wider Higher empty weight=20 Higher gross weight =20 A large percentage of 235 airframes have been upgraded with 320/360 = features, ie:=20 =20 Engine Gear legs Flap motor mounting Flap hinging Beefier horiz stab spar Tail cone bulkhead Nose gear oleo strut Nose gear tunnel Gear hydraulics plumbing Rudder cable routing Gear wells wider Removable wing tips Larger rudder =20 When looking at images of LNC2's look at the cowl inlets and the shape = of the rudder counter weight for the most obvious indicators of which = airframe it may be. Keep in mind that there are some 235 cowls with = round air inlets holes. Don Goetz made a batch of them in the early = '90's. =20 Gary Edwards LNC 2 =20 =20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Bill Harrelson=20 To: lml@lancaironline.net=20 Sent: Monday, November 18, 2013 12:43 PM Subject: [LML] Re: Difference between 235 & 320 airframes Swaid, =20 There is NO difference between a 360 and a 320 airframe. Just depends on = which engine you use. The 235 airframe, however, is considerably = different from the 320/360. It is smaller, the flaps are hinged on the = upper trailing edge vs lower skin on the 320/360. The stock 235 has a = rubber doughnut type nose gear dampening, the 320/360 have nose gear = oleo struts. The 235 has rectangular engine inlets, the 320/360 have = round. I believe that these are the major differences. There are = probably several more minor differences. There are examples of 235 = airframes with 320 engines but this does NOT make it a 320. Considerable = cowling and engine mount work are required to fit a 320 or 360 engine in = a 235 airframe. =20 =20 Bill Harrelson N5ZQ 320 2,150 hrs N6ZQ IV 400 hrs =20 =20 =20 =20 From: swaid rahn=20 Sent: Monday, November 18, 2013 8:44 AM To: lml@lancaironline.net=20 Subject: [LML] Difference between 235 & 320 airframes =20 =20 Hello everyone, What is the difference between the Lancair 235 kit and the 320 kit = besides the obvious engine size. I was told the 320 and 360 are the same = kit, is the 235 kit much smaller? There is a flying 235 with a 320 lyc. = in it for sale on Barnstormers for the low 30's and I am curious if that = is a good deal. I am familiar with the LNC4PT. Have flown & maintained one for 7 years = and involved in a build of another one. Thanks, Swaid ------=_NextPart_000_01EE_01CEE47C.11286260 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =20 =20 =20
To expand on Bill's description, other major items the 320/360 = airframe=20 is:
 
1 inch wider
9 inches longer
Larger rudder (also shaped differently
Larger canopy frame & glass (more head room)
Longer gear legs
Flap motor mounted behind the seat
Longer depth baggage area (baggage bulkhead farther rear)
Smaller header tank
Larger wing tanks
Beefier horiz. stab spar
Additional tail cone bulkhead
Screw in tie down rings (235's have release pin rings)
Removable wing tips
Larger instrument panel
Different shaped instrument panel
Different shaped nose gear tunnel (smaller)
Gear hydraulics plumbed different
Rudder cable routing different
Gear wells wider
Higher empty weight
Higher gross weight
 
A large percentage of 235 airframes have been upgraded with 320/360 = features, ie:
 
Engine
Gear legs
Flap motor mounting
Flap hinging
Beefier horiz stab spar
Tail cone bulkhead
Nose gear oleo strut
Nose gear tunnel
Gear hydraulics plumbing
Rudder cable routing
Gear wells wider
Removable wing tips
Larger rudder
 
When looking at images of LNC2's look at the cowl inlets and = the shape=20 of the rudder counter weight for the most obvious indicators of which=20 airframe it may be.  Keep in mind that there are some 235 = cowls with=20 round air inlets holes.  Don Goetz made a batch of them in the = early=20 '90's.
 
Gary Edwards
LNC 2  
 
-----=20 Original Message ----- =20
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2013 12:43 PM
Subject: [LML] Re: Difference between 235 & 320=20 airframes

Swaid,
 
There is NO difference between a 360 = and a 320=20 airframe. Just depends on which engine you use. The 235 airframe, = however, is=20 considerably different from the 320/360. It is smaller, the flaps are = hinged on=20 the upper trailing edge vs lower skin on the 320/360. The stock 235 has = a rubber=20 doughnut type nose gear dampening, the 320/360 have nose gear oleo = struts. The=20 235 has rectangular engine inlets, the 320/360 have round. I believe = that these=20 are the major differences. There are probably several more minor = differences.=20 There are examples of 235 airframes with 320 engines but this does NOT = make it a=20 320. Considerable cowling and engine mount work are required to fit a = 320 or 360=20 engine in a 235 airframe. 
 
Bill Harrelson
N5ZQ 320 2,150 hrs
N6ZQ  IV  400 hrs
 
 
 
 
From: swaid rahn
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2013 8:44 AM
Subject: [LML] Difference between 235 & 320=20 airframes
 
=20
Hello everyone,
What is the difference between the Lancair 235 kit and the 320 kit = besides=20 the obvious engine size. I was told the 320 and 360 are the same kit, is = the 235=20 kit much smaller? There is a flying 235 with a 320 lyc. in it for sale = on=20 Barnstormers for the low 30's and I am curious if that is a good = deal.
I am familiar with the LNC4PT. Have flown & maintained one for = 7 years=20 and involved in a build of another one.
Thanks,
Swaid
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