X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2013 19:42:20 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from slow1-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.178.86] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.7) with ESMTP id 6604573 for lml@lancaironline.net; Mon, 18 Nov 2013 16:04:14 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=217.70.178.86; envelope-from=Tim@MyRV10.com Received: from relay5-d.mail.gandi.net (relay5-d.mail.gandi.net [217.70.183.197]) by slow1-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1006A47A1FF for ; Mon, 18 Nov 2013 22:03:38 +0100 (CET) Received: from mfilter9-d.gandi.net (mfilter9-d.gandi.net [217.70.178.138]) by relay5-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A81CD41C054 for ; Mon, 18 Nov 2013 22:03:22 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mfilter9-d.gandi.net Received: from relay5-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.197]) by mfilter9-d.gandi.net (mfilter9-d.gandi.net [10.0.15.180]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 54ahiswVUN3y for ; Mon, 18 Nov 2013 22:03:21 +0100 (CET) X-Originating-IP: 74.115.8.183 Received: from [10.100.125.110] (unknown [74.115.8.183]) (Authenticated sender: send10@myrv10.com) by relay5-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C798B41C056 for ; Mon, 18 Nov 2013 22:03:20 +0100 (CET) X-Original-Message-ID: <528A8096.9060000@MyRV10.com> X-Original-Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2013 15:03:18 -0600 From: Tim Olson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Sleep apnea References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I've always been confused why it is so hard to find out if someone has apnea. It seems to me that the "rested feeling" would be a huge indication of NOT having apnea. All I know is that I sleep VERY soundly, and have a hard time being awoken by alarms and things, and I pretty much always feel fully rested, as long as I've allowed myself 7 or more hours of sleep. So would this have a strong indication of not having apnea, or can you be rested and not have Apnea? Just curious. Tim On 11/18/2013 2:44 PM, Ted Noel wrote: > As a physician who has sleep apnea, I will vouch for all the medical > issues... > > But one thing has been left out. If treated (typically with nasal > CPAP, which I use), OSA patients essentially revert to normal. The > problem is undiagnosed sleep apnea. So if you are a snorer, get a > sleep study. You may find you have OSA, and treatment will cut your > cardiac risk in half. > > Ted Noel MD > N540TF > > > On 11/18/2013 11:00 AM, Jay Phillips wrote: >> I don't disagree with you on anything you wrote, Doug. >> >> The article states that *all* pilots will be subject to this testing. >> BMI >> has nothing to do with it other than being the "camel's nose under the >> tent". So I will be forced to undergo this testing, at my expense, in >> order >> to continue exercising my pilot 'privileges'. >> >> Jay Phillips >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of R >> Douglas Owen >> Sent: Monday, November 18, 2013 6:45 AM >> To: lml@lancaironline.net >> Subject: [LML] Sleep apnea >> >> I have a comment regarding the recent FAA rule regarding sleep apnea. > > > -- > For archives and unsub > http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml/List.html