X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2013 13:25:19 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from smtp2v2.av-mx.com ([137.118.16.30] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.7) with ESMTP id 6580598 for lml@lancaironline.net; Thu, 07 Nov 2013 12:46:51 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=137.118.16.30; envelope-from=pinetownd@volcano.net Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp2v2.av-mx.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78E02C80A81 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2013 12:46:16 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at av-mx.com Received: from smtp2v2.av-mx.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp2v2.av-mx.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10124) with ESMTP id zXQWUhwyngL6 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2013 12:46:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from DennisPC (unknown [65.170.222.166]) (Authenticated sender: pinetownd@volcano.net) by smtp2v2.av-mx.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2013 12:46:15 -0500 (EST) X-Original-Message-ID: From: "Dennis Johnson" X-Original-To: "Lancair Mailing List" References: In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [LML] Re: 'Glass cockpit' X-Original-Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2013 09:46:14 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18197 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6002.18463 I don't believe receiving OM/MM/IM marker beacons on an ILS approach is required to fly that approach because you can locate all required positions using other means. As evidence that this is correct, note that minimums are not raised when a marker beacon is NOTAMed out of service. It appears that the FAA is phasing out marker beacons anyway. To answer your specific question about what information is displayed on a screen, I have a Chelton system. Although it has the ability to display marker beacon lights on the "attitude indicator" screen, nothing would show on the moving map screen. It's irrelevant in my case because my marker beacon receiver is not compatible with the Chelton. All required places along the ILS course are displayed on the Chelton as waypoints, independent of any marker beacons that might be there. Dennis Legacy, 680 hours ----- Original Message ----- From: "Greenbacks, UnLtd." To: "Lancair Mailing List" Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2013 5:11 AM Subject: [LML] Re: 'Glass cockpit' A question for the glass guys here. If you are executing an ILS approach, do I assume correctly that the OM/MM/IM are displayed as waypoints on the screen? If so, is a marker beacon receiver redundant/no longer required? Angier Ames N4ZQ -- For archives and unsub http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml/List.html