X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2013 12:24:25 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from bay0-omc3-s25.bay0.hotmail.com ([65.54.190.163] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.7) with ESMTP id 6580548 for lml@lancaironline.net; Thu, 07 Nov 2013 12:13:05 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=65.54.190.163; envelope-from=jraddison@msn.com Received: from BAY174-W49 ([65.54.190.187]) by bay0-omc3-s25.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Thu, 7 Nov 2013 09:12:30 -0800 X-TMN: [twLKcz+0OwoN3p4SbydLPaDhIGdySLHm] X-Originating-Email: [jraddison@msn.com] X-Original-Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: jraddison@msn.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_fd1c0420-365e-4304-ae99-98dd0e0a624a_" From: JON ADDISON X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List Subject: checklists tooo long X-Original-Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2013 09:12:29 -0800 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Nov 2013 17:12:30.0127 (UTC) FILETIME=[8A61B3F0:01CEDBDC] --_fd1c0420-365e-4304-ae99-98dd0e0a624a_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable For what it's worth (2 cents)=2C check lists ARE often too long. Seems 1= 72 checklists are longer than a Boeing 737 to instill training perhaps. Of= course=2C the 737 always had a copilot or non-flying pilot to do the read = and the 'other pilot' to do the response. So long=2C in-fact=2C when single pilot=2C they INVITE skipping a long chec= klist when an expedited take off is needed or one is in rough IFR weather = on an approach and its too demanding to read a bunch of items=2C and then i= t is skipped entirely because a mental check list hasn't been learned and d= isciplined for every to/landing. Thus=2C a disciplined=2C and specifically modified CIGARS and GUMPS careful= ly designed for the particular plane is very effective when teamed up with:= no touch and goes (very bad for head training) and have separate warning/c= aution lights for the gotchas. Also=2C I add a 5 item "flow" check upon ta= king runway. If done each and every time (thus=2C no T and G) it works. For example the C in my CIGARS contains 3 items: Controls=2C Camber (Flaps= )=2C Canopy. Oh=2C and it's manly to say the mental checklist over the intercom=3B cogni= tive testing consistently shows how effective it is when you tell your brai= n something aloud. =20 A mental Landing checklist (aloud) definitely helps get the head outside lo= oking and flying the airplane. Oh and it's 2 GUMPS for every landing. One caveat is flying or training in many aircraft. Then it's DO THE CHECK= LIST. Maybe mental checklists aren't for everyone=2C and don't wait for the FAA t= o approve. =20 Jack Addison = --_fd1c0420-365e-4304-ae99-98dd0e0a624a_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
For what it's worth (2 cents)=2C= check lists ARE often too long.  =3B  =3BSeems 172 checklists are = longer than a Boeing 737 to instill training perhaps.  =3BOf course=2C = the 737 always had a copilot or non-flying pilot to do the read and the 'ot= her pilot' to do the response.

So long=2C in-fact=2C when= single pilot=2C they INVITE skipping a long checklist  =3Bwhen an expe= dited take off is needed or one is in rough IFR weather on an approach and = its too demanding to read a bunch of items=2C and then it is skipped entire= ly because a mental check list hasn't been learned and disciplined for ever= y to/landing.

Thus=2C a disciplined=2C= and specifically modified CIGARS and GUMPS carefully designed for the part= icular plane is very effective when teamed up with: no touch and goes (very= bad for head training) and have separate warning/caution lights for the go= tchas.  =3BAlso=2C I add a 5 item "flow" check upon taking runway. &nbs= p=3B If done each and every time (thus=2C no T and G) it works.
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For example the C in my CIGARS contains 3 items:  =3BCont= rols=2C Camber (Flaps)=2C Canopy.

Oh=2C and it's m= anly to say the mental checklist over the intercom=3B cognitive testing con= sistently shows how effective it is when you tell your brain something alou= d.  =3B

A mental Landing checklist (aloud) def= initely helps get the head outside looking and flying the airplane.  = =3BOh and it's 2 GUMPS  =3Bfor every landing.

= One caveat is flying or training in many aircraft.  =3B Then it's DO TH= E CHECKLIST.

Maybe mental checklists aren't for ev= eryone=2C and don't wait for the FAA to approve.  =3B

Jack Addison

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