Return-Path: Received: from mail.cruzio.com ([208.226.92.37]) by truman.olsusa.com (Post.Office MTA v3.1.2 release (PO203-101c) ID# 0-44819U2500L250S0) with ESMTP id AAA10750 for ; Sun, 27 Sep 1998 02:07:01 -0400 Received: from testelectronics.mail (sa-207-251-8-110.cruzio.com [207.251.8.110]) by mail.cruzio.com with SMTP id XAA18535 for ; Sat, 26 Sep 1998 23:06:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from laptop [192.168.1.4] by testelectronics.mail [192.168.1.1] with SMTP (MDaemon.v2.5.rB.b2.32-R) for ; Sat, 26 Sep 98 23:06:31 -0700 Received: by localhost with Microsoft MAPI; Sat, 26 Sep 1998 23:04:14 -0700 Message-ID: <01BDE9A1.FAD03F00.ed@testelectronics.com> From: Ed Armstrong Reply-To: "ed@testelectronics.com" To: "Lancair [lancair.list@olsusa.com] (E-mail)" Subject: Protecting Switch Contacts Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1998 23:04:12 -0700 Organization: Test Electronics X-Mailing-List: lancair.list@olsusa.com Mime-Version: 1.0 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> << Lancair Builders' Mail List >> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> Marv asks: the question is what can we do to protect those relay contacts to prevent arcing when we fire-up/shut-down those motors? Yes good point, electric motors are also inductive loads, and you can use the same flyback circuit on the motors to protect the relay contacts. So, first use the low current diode circuit to protect the switch from the flyback that the relay coil produces. Next, use the high current varistor circuit to protect the relay contacts from the flyback the motor produces. This will help eliminate welded contacts. Make sure to physically place the flyback circuits as close as possible to inductive loads which produce the flyback, this will help reduce noise in your electrical system. The diode I added in series with the MOV is only for noise reduction if you have noise sensitive instruments. You could try it first without this diode and then add it later if you need it. The schematic for both these circuits is at http://www.testelectronics.com/ftp/flyback.gif The term "welded contacts" is a very good description of what makes the switches stick. This just made me think of an arc welder. A simple arc welder is nothing more than a large coil in series with a power supply. This may help more of you understand just how important a flyback circuit is. Regards, Ed.