X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2013 12:46:21 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from mail-yh0-f52.google.com ([209.85.213.52] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.7) with ESMTPS id 6562786 for lml@lancaironline.net; Thu, 24 Oct 2013 09:41:38 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.213.52; envelope-from=toddlong1@gmail.com Received: by mail-yh0-f52.google.com with SMTP id i72so893045yha.39 for ; Thu, 24 Oct 2013 06:41:05 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.236.118.148 with SMTP id l20mr625266yhh.89.1382622064903; Thu, 24 Oct 2013 06:41:04 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from [192.168.1.3] ([187.185.220.98]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id e39sm2527987yhq.15.2013.10.24.06.41.04 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 24 Oct 2013 06:41:04 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Odyssey PC680 Batteries on Firewall -- Cool Enough? References: From: Todd Long Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (11A501) In-Reply-To: X-Original-Message-Id: <4D55F109-739E-469B-80B3-BF9D60D86483@gmail.com> X-Original-Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2013 08:41:03 -0500 X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Under what load do you see the 1.2v drop?=20 Typing and grammar errors courtesy of Siri and the iPhone. > On Oct 24, 2013, at 8:08, jeffrey liegner wrote: >=20 > Chris, >=20 > The back battery (behind the aft bulkhead) does have a trickle drain via t= he panel's clock. This is why the voltage trickles down over time (days, we= eks) relative to the isolated battery on the firewall. My observation is in= dependent of this variable. >=20 > But when both batteries are fully charged, either with dual alternator out= puts or plug-in charger, the delta is 1.2V to 1.3V as seen at nearly the sam= e point behind the panel. >=20 > I had originally planned for copper cables, and measured the drop based on= 6ft, but found the weight to high. Aluminum is used, and the drop is signi= ficantly greater than copper (as we know), and the result of roughly 6ft of 2= gauge is 1.2-1.3V demonstrated. >=20 > If this were the cranking battery, it has an impact on amps available tot h= e starter, which is another 3-4 ft further forward. When I have experimente= d with cranking off the aft battery, it definitely is weaker, a problem if c= old start. >=20 > Jeff >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > On Oct 24, 2013, at 6:00 AM, Lancair Mailing List wrote: >=20 > From: Chris Zavatson > Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Odyssey PC680 Batteries on Firewall -- Cool Enough?= > Date: October 23, 2013 7:45:51 AM EDT > To: lml@lancaironline.net >=20 >=20 > Jeff, > Something sounds amiss with your batteries. Longer cables will indeed inc= ur a voltage drop under load, but I assume the voltages you listed were open= circuit or lightly loaded. You mentioned the difference is larger after si= tting longer. Is there perhaps a low current drain on one battery? > A 6 ft section of 4 gauge wire will see a voltage drop of 1.3 V when carry= ing about 900 A. > Any open circuit voltage south of 12.5 V is worth investigating. >=20 > Chris Zavatson > N91CZ > 360std > http://www.n91cz.net/ >=20 > -- > For archives and unsub http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml/List.htm= l