X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from elasmtp-banded.atl.sa.earthlink.net ([209.86.89.70] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.7) with ESMTP id 6562776 for lml@lancaironline.net; Thu, 24 Oct 2013 09:18:59 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.86.89.70; envelope-from=colyncase@earthlink.net DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=BfQ8fFAauQRJ//H4amOJFqmXPXW6fDqRbW5Vn3o69IbuKgMAn7yb0fwTDvNmXVaX; h=Received:Content-Type:Mime-Version:Subject:From:In-Reply-To:Date:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-Id:References:To:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [70.16.215.180] (helo=[192.168.1.24]) by elasmtp-banded.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1VZKnw-0002Lc-3U for lml@lancaironline.net; Thu, 24 Oct 2013 09:18:24 -0400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1085) Subject: Re: [LML] Odyssey Battery stack on Firewall - life time From: Colyn Case In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2013 09:18:23 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <340F6CC1-6B25-4715-B0CA-A551E00804F8@earthlink.net> References: To: "Lancair Mailing List" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1085) X-ELNK-Trace: 63d5d3452847f8b1d6dd28457998182d7e972de0d01da94026676339abaf7f15435e81cd1f46f3be350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 70.16.215.180 Hi Ralf, Those look like Odyssey's. My experience with Odysseys is that they = are picky about charging voltages and when they fail they tend to fail = suddenly. I would suggest going to the Odyssey website and finding = their detailed charging instructions, then take the batteries out of the = plane and charge as directed, one at a time. (You may need to buy a new = charger) See how the voltages look and then make a decision. =20 I think if I had a single bus electrical system, I might consider = reverting to a flooded aircraft battery. I don't really have a scientific justification for that. ...Just that = in 13 years of aircraft ownership I have toasted zero flooded batteries = and 2 pair of Odyssey's. Colyn On Oct 24, 2013, at 9:04 AM, = wrote: Dear subscribers, I got a 2x12V=3D24V battery stack on the firewall behind the oil cooler = - see picture I started flying the plane in May2011 with about 350hrs since then. I bought the batteries probably early 2010 and used them during the start-up process of the electrical systems in the plane. Last week I thought the first crank revolution during starting felt kind of weak - what kind of life can I expect out of them? Does it just get weaker and don't start the engine anymore or would it more likely die sudden at night in IMC? I don't have an electrical back up but vacuum instruments and a flashlight in the cockpit. Thanks for your input Ralf -----Original Message----- From: Chris Zavatston [mailto:chris_zavatson@yahoo.com]=20 Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2013 7:54 AM To: lml@lancaironline.net Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Odyssey PC680 Batteries on Firewall -- Cool Enough? Why was it smoking? Overcharging? Sent from my spiffy iPhone On Oct 21, 2013, at 5:02 PM, Colyn Case wrote: > I haven't been a fan of batteries behind the firewall since my friend had his battery start smoking IMC in a Cessna 210. He made it but it wasn't pretty. >=20 > On Oct 21, 2013, at 3:58 PM, Steve Colwell wrote: >=20 > Ditto.. put the battery or batteries behind the seat too if the CG (or > your > A/C) will allow. Our CG with Pump and 3, 20 amp Panasonic Batteries=20= > behind the seats (Hartzell 3 blade) is near the fwd. limit with=20 > Claudette solo, no bags and minimum fuel. >=20 > Steve Colwell Legacy 550 RG >=20 >=20 > Move your hydraulic pump from its current location. > Create a small bulkhead and put the pump directly behind your seat. > The reasons are too numerous to list! > Don't even think twice about making this change. > Equally important, locate your pump breaker within easy reach on your panel. >=20 > Angier Ames > N4ZQ > 69hrs >=20 > -- > For archives and unsub=20 > http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml/List.html >=20 >=20 > -- > For archives and unsub=20 > http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml/List.html >=20 >=20 > -- > For archives and unsub=20 > http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml/List.html -- For archives and unsub = http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml/List.html