I am considering adjusting my mag timing in order to lower my chts. My engine is an io360 exp with a name plate stamped at 25 degrees. My eci flywheel is only marked at TC and 25 degrees but I figure each tooth is worth 2.5 degrees. The slick mags are 4373 and 4370 both marked at 25 degrees lag
There was a lycoming service instruction back in the mid 70s si1325a that advocated backing timing off to 20 degrees to improve CHTs.
I have three questions for the group.
1. Anybody running 20 degrees advance after changing from 25 degrees? Worth the effort on CHT? 2. Anybody running 20 degrees on this engine type and chts running in the 380 max range? 3. If I move my timing down to 22 or so and leave the magneto lag on the impulse magneto alone would there be any adverse effects other than lower power and maybe a little more difficulty starting?
The si stated that the lag should be adjusted to 15 degrees for better starts
Thanks in advance
Tom
Lnc2 285 hrs
Service Instruction No. 1325A (Supersedes Service Instruction No. 1325) Engineering Aspects are FAA (DEER) Approved DATE: May 14, 1976 SUBJECT: MODELS AFFECTED: TIME OF COMPLIANCE: Timing Change for IO-360 Series Engines IO-360-A series (not -A1B6D), -C, -D series, HIO-360-C1A, -C1B, AEIO- 360-A1B6 with serial numbers prior to 14435-51; IO-360-C1D6 with serial numbers prior to 14445-51, LIO-360-C1E6 with serial numbers prior to 1063-67 and AIO-360-A1A, -A1B, -B1B with serial numbers prior to 219-63; TIO-360-A1B with serial numbers prior to 145-64. See Service Bulletin No. 380 for IO-360-C1C and -C1F models. At overhaul or at owner's discretion. Certain advantages in engine operation have been found by changing engine timing from 25° BTC to 20 BTC and reducing the lag angle to 15° on impulse coupling magnetos and 15 retard angle on retard breaker magnetos whi-chever is applicable. Significant improve-ments in engine operating characteristics are achieved in above listed aircraft engine installations particularly in the areas of normal operation and cold weather starting. During cruise operation, cooler cylinder head temperatures can be expected resulting in improved service life of intake and exhaust valves. During full throttle operation the new spark setting will reduce possibility of detonation during extreme cold weather opera-tion. Consequently this modification has been incorporated in the production of new engines and may be incorporated in engines in service as follows: 1. Remove the left magneto and determine if it has an impulse coupling or if it is a retard breaker magneto; if it is a retard breaker magneto it cannot be converted to the 15 retard angle. However, a Bendix blue magneto which incorporates a 15 re-tard angle is available through Avco Ly-coming distributors. See "Parts Data" be-low. Install the replacement magneto as described in step 3. 2. If the left magneto has an impulse coupling, replace the coupling with a new one, LW-391429 on all models except reverse rotation engines; on these use impulse coupling LW-391427. 3. Install the magneto on the engine and retime both magnetos using the 20 timing mark on the starter ring gear instead of the 25 mark. See Avco Lycoming Operator's Manual 60297-12 for ignition timing proce-dure. 4. Replace the engine nameplate with a new one, Avco Lycoming P/N 61548 which indi-cates new timing angle. Also restamp the magneto nameplate to indicate the magneto is -9, -10 or -55 instead of -3, -6 or -45. PARTS DATA: 15 Lag Angle Magneto LW-349365-9 LW-349365-10 LW-51360-55 Replaces Magneto LW-349365-3 Magneto Model Engine Application S4LN-1227 IO-360-A1B,-A1B6,-C1C,-C1F,-C1D 6, -C1E6, AIO-360-A1A, -A1B, -B1B, AEIO-360-A1B6 LW-349365-6 S4RN-1227 LIO-360-C1E6 LW-51360-45 S4LN-21 IO-360-A1D
PARTS DATA (CONT.): 15° Retard Angle Magneto LW-349285-7 LW-349285-8 LW-163005-11 LW-163005-12 Replaces Magneto LW-349285-1 LW-163005-2 Magneto Model S4LN-1208 S4RN-1208 S4LN-200 S4RN-200 Engine Application IO-360-A1C, -C1C, -D1A; HIO-360-C1B; AIO-360- A1A; TIO-360-A1B LHIO-360 C1B IO-360-AlA, -A2A, -C1A; HIO-360-ClA; AEIO-360- A1A LHIO-360-C1A LW-391429 LW-391427 61548 18484, 18485 - Impulse coupling, 15° lag angle (replaces LW-349359) Impulse coupling, 15 lag angle (replaces LW-349358 for magnetos on reverse ro-tation engines) Engine nameplate (replaces nameplate with 25° BTC timing specified). See Ser-vice Instruction No. 1304 for procurement procedure. These numbers for Avco Lycoming reference only.
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