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The 2 keys to making the push button work are getting the door catchs 
positioned such that the tapered part of the locking pin moves past the 
catch edge (many don't have these close enough), and creating smooth looping 
cable runs to make the button pushing effort managable. It's certainly 
easier to install if the rearpressure bulkhead is not yet installed so you 
can see what you are doing from both sides!

Brad Simmons
Airframes Inc.
39 Airport Rd.
Milan, TN  38358
731-686-3610
731-686-3613 fax
www.airframesinc.com

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Weinsweig" <weinsweigd@gmail.com>
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Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2013 7:38 AM
Subject: [LML] Baggage door potential disaster


Early on in the flying of my Propjet, I headed home from Airventure after 
filling the baggage compartment with toys for the kids and a folding chair 
which was the last item I put in before closing the baggage door.  We 
equipped the baggage door with the remote push button mod. The button was 
installed as Brad suggested-hidden by the cabin door when closed and locked. 
At altitude half way through the flight home, ATC asked me to turn left.  It 
was a nice VFR day and I was hand flying so I made a steep left turn. 
Suddenly, while in the bank, I heard a loud bang which caught my attention 
and significantly elevated my heart rate. After verifying cabin 
pressurization was good, all instruments were showing normal, and the plane 
flew properly, my first thought was that a gear door had blown open for some 
reason. The plane was flying fine though there was a slight sound of "wind" 
that persisted the rest of the flight.

After landing, I looked all around and under the plane.  Everything looked 
fine until I noticed that I did not need to open the baggage door to get the 
toys out as there was no baggage door!!  Amazingly, the only thing that blew 
out of the baggage compartment was the chair. All of the toys remained!

I believe that when I made the steep bank the chair pushed against the door 
or perhaps the latch system causing the baggage door to open.  I was very 
fortunate that there was no damage to the plane.  We made a new baggage door 
installing the standard barrel locks which I believe are much more secure 
than the aftermarket push button system.

I agree with Peter.  Although sleek and cool, the remote push button baggage 
door system is NOT reliable and is NOT safe IMHO.  Judging from the 
documented multiple failures of this system, I believe it should be avoided.

David Weinsweig
Propjet N750DW 315 hrs

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