X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2013 08:36:06 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from omr-d02.mx.aol.com ([205.188.109.194] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.7) with ESMTPS id 6508857 for lml@lancaironline.net; Wed, 09 Oct 2013 16:15:40 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=205.188.109.194; envelope-from=vtailjeff@aol.com Received: from mtaomg-ma02.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-ma02.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.9]) by omr-d02.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 1CFC17013C40D for ; Wed, 9 Oct 2013 16:15:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-mna002b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mna002.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.106.5]) by mtaomg-ma02.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 41803E000081 for ; Wed, 9 Oct 2013 16:15:07 -0400 (EDT) References: X-Original-To: lml@lancaironline.net Subject: Re: [LML] BAGGAGE DOOR DISASTER In-Reply-To: X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: vtailjeff@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--------MB_8D0934361AA2233_17E8_28840_webmailstg-d04.sysops.aol.com" X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 38099-STANDARD Received: from 12.110.229.82 by webmailstg-d04.sysops.aol.com (205.188.103.150) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Wed, 09 Oct 2013 16:15:06 -0400 X-Original-Message-Id: <8D093435E7747DB-17E8-B4E6@webmailstg-d04.sysops.aol.com> X-Originating-IP: [12.110.229.82] X-Original-Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2013 16:15:07 -0400 (EDT) x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d29095255b94b55a5 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ----------MB_8D0934361AA2233_17E8_28840_webmailstg-d04.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Peter, what accident? Jeff -----Original Message----- From: PETER WILLIAMS To: lml Sent: Wed, Oct 9, 2013 8:47 am Subject: [LML] BAGGAGE DOOR DISASTER HI THERE IS YOUR BAGGAGE DOOR POSITIVELY LOCKED? There was a relatively recent accident with a Lancair IV possibly caused by= the baggage door. The plane did not have locks on the baggage door, instead it had a nice con= venient button to release the=20 baggage door like the one on your car. GREAT. but, the likely cause of the death of two experienced pilots = is that the door came open in flight and the airplane cover that was stored in the baggage area was sucked out and wrap= ped itself around the tail feathers. then NO MORE CONTROL just down. the idea of this neat door opener inside the cabin seems great. what a conv= enience. and WHO WOULDA THUNK. hit the button by mistake; or the lock system fails... THEN YOU DIE. my first thought of a solution would be to put the door opener in series wi= th the green gear lights,=20 no light, no door open, but what about in the pattern? well that leads to h= aving a squat switch on the gear. no squat; no baggage open. My plane is simple, one cannot take the key out of the lock when the door i= s unlocked. upon thinking about this=20 accident, i thought "wow, a fail proof system was built in, and i was total= ly unaware of the thinking behind such a simple setup" THE CHANGE to a button is a perfect example of the law of unintended conseq= uences. or be careful of what you wish for. peter =09=09 =09 =09=09 =20 ----------MB_8D0934361AA2233_17E8_28840_webmailstg-d04.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii"
Peter,
 
what accident?
 
Jeff
-----Original Message-----
From: PETER WILLIAMS <peterpawaviation@hotmail.com>
To: lml <lml@lancaironline.net>
Sent: Wed, Oct 9, 2013 8:47 am
Subject: [LML] BAGGAGE DOOR DISASTER

HI THERE

IS YOUR BAGGAGE DOOR POSITIVELY LOCKED?

There was a relatively recent accident with a Lancair IV possibly caused by= the baggage door.

The plane did not have locks on the baggage door, instead it had a nice con= venient button to release the
baggage door like the one on your car.
       GREAT. but, the likely cause of the death of two= experienced pilots is that the door came open in flight and the
 airplane cover that was stored in the baggage area was sucked out and= wrapped itself around the tail feathers.

then NO MORE CONTROL     just down.

the idea of this neat door opener inside the cabin seems great. what a conv= enience. and

  WHO WOULDA THUNK.

hit the button by mistake; or the lock system fails... THEN YOU DIE.

my first thought of a solution would be to put the door opener in series wi= th the green gear lights,

no light, no door open, but what about in the pattern? well that leads to h= aving a squat switch on the gear.
no squat; no baggage open.

My plane is simple, one cannot take the key out of the lock when the door i= s unlocked. upon thinking about this
accident, i thought "wow, a fail proof system was built in, and i was total= ly unaware of the thinking behind such a simple setup"

THE CHANGE to a button is a perfect example of the law of unintended = consequences.

or be careful of what you wish for.

peter
=09=09 =09 =09=09
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