X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2013 08:35:56 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from nm48-vm6.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com ([67.195.87.226] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.7) with ESMTPS id 6508826 for lml@lancaironline.net; Wed, 09 Oct 2013 15:59:10 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=67.195.87.226; envelope-from=chris_zavatson@yahoo.com Received: from [98.137.12.174] by nm48.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Oct 2013 19:58:35 -0000 Received: from [216.39.60.156] by tm13.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Oct 2013 19:58:35 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1075.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Oct 2013 19:58:35 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 678297.71617.bm@omp1075.mail.gq1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 79865 invoked by uid 60001); 9 Oct 2013 19:58:34 -0000 DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=MS+YM07hOhUxPxbIBByVkSx15hrkye4CktTjfT40TZmPGB0vqmo9vLXgduRur6vxaU73cgQBe2juVH8ZUWaWhccOKm/u/j9dwot/soyAkDfdAeLcvxBSHI2vI0AeNliB+LXitrkEBJ6elW6z2k1CqHlyRb3zWkJjvFEMM4S59AA=; X-YMail-OSG: j7MWDpcVM1l7zq4fFBGStMemu0SdQgRDyF8jBsEzaqNY49q upYEyuGL1P_nSCdILZ2C9CYIEZXMVt1ZVSzIIaDX8so7YiXe5377ldRFGBj1 E0pGiygk8Ff8GjX5iUtOk0lMo_RVG6amHkcZ3Fn4yxBxx2bnbbjzNKXZKjJC NfC7SDBBy8.db.sI4_OJd8kEEJTZjKSbFfvPMJuAsLiaMEsNkHeCCEwkyHLY _.cwjbwfXrF6Xc7dodughMn_z1Q2Q0z1zvPIzXaPZtJEw6FCKyYqSKc7ueF0 sT3KAbYxNz4WOpDzTMT.NT17jelV7KAsr5dASG5h_RIcUXY5VdP0MqEwE3YS 53_f284ZZ2ceZW.vrXBEY25qVRyOLNYhLYWOF2ZU60DRMfcpMG.LEidK79Ki 84ObdA0wNFxD2eYIs50GpQ4mYCXWkPZ1aEOLKB0DcjAGYsny2oJOAbEd_H8K ID5gwyKBYCTXYxmNklGccxUhiFuW_gCH2HiVJIPlkQgkMN35iWVTe_BvmEKg D6JtdjWCQtiObF25NfLv5a2WN8rgM1EZY_blvNiiXNWW5nEl8eHeXm_ymWgq NdUYhpnUjki0cdlyT4JwjIe.8aUCtRIqGxv8kzL9yh9_.JVoprUZPn5FKPc2 EPMpC5O47qfDQeXInray0rt1FRGtUr6U0oAygSgoeNRldUoOiRvfYtZniD.S zlhztFwEXyJlsGdAqpB9OZN_s5Nj0YLYJSo02bmSMEIKrubGWOg5O5XlZwQ2 A Received: from [172.14.16.72] by web121602.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 09 Oct 2013 12:58:34 PDT X-Rocket-MIMEInfo: 002.001,VGVycmVuY2UsCkkgdXNlIGEgcmVtb3RlIGNhbm9weSBsb2NrIG9uIG15IHBsYW5lLsKgwqBUbyBhdm9pZMKgYSBjb250aW51b3VzIGRyYWluIG9uIHRoZSBiYXR0ZXJ5LCBJIGhhdmUgYW4gZWxlY3RyaWNhbCBrZXkgc3dpdGNoIG9uIHRoZSBvdXRzaWRlIHRoYXQgd2lsbCBraWxsIHBvd2VyIHRvIHRoZSBsaXR0bGUgY29udHJvbGxlci7CoCBUaGUga2V5IHN3aXRjaCBqdXN0IHJlcGxhY2VkIHRoZSBvbGQgbWVjaGFuaWNhbCBsb2NrLsKgIApJZiBpdCBpcyBhIGp1c3QgYSBkYXkgdHJpcCwgSSBkb24ndCB3b3IBMAEBAQE- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.160.587 References: X-Original-Message-ID: <1381348714.71883.YahooMailNeo@web121602.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> X-Original-Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2013 12:58:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Chris Zavatson Reply-To: Chris Zavatson Subject: Re: [LML] drain of battery X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-2038480821-1774603714-1381348714=:71883" ---2038480821-1774603714-1381348714=:71883 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Terrence,=0AI use a remote canopy lock on my plane.=A0=A0To avoid=A0a conti= nuous drain on the battery, I have an electrical key switch on the outside = that will kill power to the little controller.=A0 The key switch just repla= ced the old mechanical lock.=A0 =0AIf it is a just a day trip, I don't worr= y about it.=A0 Anything longer, I just kill the power to the unit.=0A=A0=0A= Chris Zavatson=0AN91CZ=0Ahttp://www.n91cz.net/=0A=0A=0A=0AOn Wednesday, Oct= ober 9, 2013 12:29 PM, Terrence O'Neill wrote:=0A = =0AThanks for the suggestions regarding the mystery 18.7 mA battery drain o= n my 235/320.=0AHere's an update.=0AAs suggested, I pulled circuit breakers= one at a time until the very last one -- for the landing gear pump relays = -- cut the drain to zero.=0ASo next I checked each landing gear pump relay,= and neither one was leaking. !=0ASo next, to check that circuit breaker it= self -- mounted on the bulkhead behind the baggage area! -- i squirmed back= past that bulkhead, access cover removed, and saw a second wire going from= it to somewhere... and followed it to a little black box with a loose wire= dangling from it like an antenna !=A0 Then remembered that two years ago w= hen I converted the canopy to a sliding one with a linear actuator, that wa= s the receiver for the remote... to the hot side from the battery so I coul= d use the remote as a canopy lock.=0ABack into the paperwork files, and the= re was all the stuff.=A0 A simple remote control system from Figarelli Auto= . .. 4CH-RC. =0A=0ASo I asked Figarelli tech what the normal battery drain = was supposed to be for the receiver for the relays.=A0 They didn't know ...= buy the units elsewhere... and would call to find what the nominal battery= drain was.=A0 Call them back next week. =0A=0AThe Odyssey 625 data shows t= hat 18mA will drain the battery down to 30%=A0 or 12.04VDC (Minimum needed = to crank the engine) ... in just 29 days... like, when parked outside in Co= lorado during a month's vacation.=A0 Or like at the airport without the OMA= X 6A-1B charger connected.=0A=0AQuestion: Is there somewhere else that woul= d have a record of the battery drain specs for that relay?=0A=0ATerrence=0A= L235/320 N211AL=0A--=0AFor archives and unsub http://mail.lancaironline.net= :81/lists/lml/List.html ---2038480821-1774603714-1381348714=:71883 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Terrence,
I use a remote ca= nopy lock on my plane.  To avoid a continuous drain on the b= attery, I have an electrical key switch on the outside that will kill power= to the little controller.  The key switch just replaced the old mecha= nical lock. 
If it is a just a day trip, I don= 't worry about it.  Anything longer, I just kill the power to the unit= .
 
Chris Zavatson
N91CZ


<= font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"> On Wednesday, October 9, 2013 12:29 PM, Ter= rence O'Neill <troneill@charter.net> wrote:
Thanks for the suggestions regarding the mystery = 18.7 mA battery drain on my 235/320.
Here's an update.
As suggested, = I pulled circuit breakers one at a time until the very last one -- for the = landing gear pump relays -- cut the drain to zero.
So next I checked eac= h landing gear pump relay, and neither one was leaking. !
So next, to ch= eck that circuit breaker itself -- mounted on the bulkhead behind the bagga= ge area! -- i squirmed back past that bulkhead, access cover removed, and s= aw a second wire going from it to somewhere... and followed it to a little = black box with a loose wire dangling from it like an antenna !  Then remembered that two years ago when I converted the canopy to a sliding one= with a linear actuator, that was the receiver for the remote... to the hot= side from the battery so I could use the remote as a canopy lock.
Back = into the paperwork files, and there was all the stuff.  A simple remot= e control system from Figarelli Auto. .. 4CH-RC.

So I asked Figarel= li tech what the normal battery drain was supposed to be for the receiver f= or the relays.  They didn't know ... buy the units elsewhere... and wo= uld call to find what the nominal battery drain was.  Call them back n= ext week.

The Odyssey 625 data shows that 18mA will drain the batte= ry down to 30%  or 12.04VDC (Minimum needed to crank the engine) ... i= n just 29 days... like, when parked outside in Colorado during a month's va= cation.  Or like at the airport without the OMAX 6A-1B charger connect= ed.

Question: Is there somewhere else that would have a record of the battery drain specs for that relay?

Terrence
L235/= 320 N211AL
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