X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Wed, 09 Oct 2013 15:57:13 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from mailout14.yourhostingaccount.com ([65.254.253.112] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.7) with ESMTP id 6508788 for lml@lancaironline.net; Wed, 09 Oct 2013 15:31:33 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=65.254.253.112; envelope-from=SRS0=1bna5A=TT=airframesinc.com=brad@yourhostingaccount.com Received: from mailscan18.yourhostingaccount.com ([10.1.15.18] helo=mailscan18.yourhostingaccount.com) by mailout14.yourhostingaccount.com with esmtp (Exim) id 1VTzTD-0003nV-QR for lml@lancaironline.net; Wed, 09 Oct 2013 15:30:56 -0400 Received: from impout01.yourhostingaccount.com ([10.1.55.1] helo=impout01.yourhostingaccount.com) by mailscan18.yourhostingaccount.com with esmtp (Exim) id 1VTzSd-0004AO-VS for lml@lancaironline.net; Wed, 09 Oct 2013 15:30:19 -0400 Received: from authsmtp17.yourhostingaccount.com ([10.1.18.17]) by impout01.yourhostingaccount.com with NO UCE id b7Ww1m0050N5tVm017Wwnf; Wed, 09 Oct 2013 15:30:56 -0400 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=EJGEIilC c=1 sm=1 a=HGMQmSJeTODcyIIOOD8qAg==:17 a=eVmwlQb-OvUA:10 a=CDY1ZxzCTD8A:10 a=-jJjFhJq1GgA:10 a=27qnZCq6AAAA:8 a=VXMlC4BWstwA:10 a=Ia-xEzejAAAA:8 a=3szTV3kM-g4g01TER7cA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=pQtlzSjw8oMA:10 a=eabnt9pGaVEA:10 a=k1ZXgcqWoEYA:10 a=EzXvWhQp4_cA:10 a=o1OHuDzbAAAA:8 a=QxgJKtnCde3RWbpji68A:9 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=ILCZio5HsAgA:10 a=dT0BK_FKoL4wGZr2:21 a=ayZJSlMgWVhgG3n+ZwULew==:117 X-EN-OrigOutIP: 10.1.18.17 X-EN-IMPSID: b7Ww1m0050N5tVm017Wwnf Received: from adsl-74-226-93-150.mem.bellsouth.net ([74.226.93.150]:59867 helo=BradPC) by authsmtp17.yourhostingaccount.com with esmtpa (Exim) id 1VTzTD-0005do-TT for lml@lancaironline.net; Wed, 09 Oct 2013 15:30:56 -0400 X-Original-Message-ID: From: "Brad Simmons" X-Original-To: "Lancair Mailing List" References: In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [LML] Re: BAGGAGE DOOR DISASTER X-Original-Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2013 14:30:51 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_009F_01CEC4FC.275E3090" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18197 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6002.18417 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 131009-0, 10/09/2013), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-EN-UserInfo: 083c580f26f2276ef4ed2a347163d77c:931c98230c6409dcc37fa7e93b490c27 X-EN-AuthUser: brad@airframesinc.com X-Original-Sender: "Brad Simmons" X-EN-OrigIP: 74.226.93.150 X-EN-OrigHost: adsl-74-226-93-150.mem.bellsouth.net This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_009F_01CEC4FC.275E3090 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Skip, that's interesting that your door stayed attached. I have repaired = 4 over the years that either came open or were not latched. Two of those = were discovered while the pilot was still low and slow, but they came = off anyway. There were all in IV-P's. I also watched a guy fly out of here one time without one after he = decided he didn't want to wait on me to fix it.=20 We always put the push button latch on the cabin door frame in such a = position that it cannot be pushed while the cabin door is closed and = locked. Brad Simmons Airframes Inc. 39 Airport Rd. Milan, TN 38358 731-686-3610 731-686-3613 fax www.airframesinc.com ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Skip Slater=20 To: lml@lancaironline.net=20 Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2013 2:24 PM Subject: [LML] Re: BAGGAGE DOOR DISASTER Peter, I have a solenoid operated baggage door release on my ES. It began = as a mechanical system, but the mechanism was not easy to push open, so = I switched to a solenoid a few years ago. I considered the possibility = of an inadvertent inflight activation, so I included a microswitch that = opens the circuit to the solenoid whenever my door is latched closed. = So far it's worked flawlessly. By the way, before I went to the solenoid, I had my baggage door = open in flight one day climbing out at 140-150 KIAS. I simply hadn't = fully latched it and it popped open. I wouldn't have known it had = happened if I didn't have a "Baggage Door Open" annunciator light in my = panel. I'd seen that light before a few times when the switch that = activated it got out of adjustment and assumed that's what had happened = this time. Then I started feeling a draft on my neck and looked over my = shoulder to see the door fully open. Much to my surprise it was steady = as a rock. I immediately reduced power and slowed down as much as = possible, lowering my flaps as I decelerated and began descending for a = landing at the nearest airport. Amazingly, with the flaps down, the = door also came down from fully open to about 1/4 open. I tried = modulating the flaps a little and the door moved up and down with them. = It remained stable in all positions until I landed. I checked = everything out, found no damage whatsoever, closed the door and took = off. I was very fortunate that there was nothing in the baggage area = that could have been sucked out but as a result of this experience, I = now pack my bags such that nothing small or light is near the door just = in case. I always try to have my largest bag go in last and block the = door opening so nothing around it could get out. Thankfully, I've never = had a repeat occurrence of the door coming open. Skip Slater N540ES ------=_NextPart_000_009F_01CEC4FC.275E3090 Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =EF=BB=BF
Skip, that's interesting that your door = stayed=20 attached. I have repaired 4 over the years that either came open or were = not=20 latched. Two of those were discovered while the pilot was still low and = slow,=20 but they came off anyway. There were all in IV-P's.
I also watched a guy fly out of here = one time=20 without one after he decided he didn't want to wait on me to fix it.=20
We always put the push button latch on = the cabin=20 door frame in such a position that it cannot be pushed while the cabin = door is=20 closed and locked.
Brad Simmons
Airframes Inc.
39 Airport Rd.
Milan, TN  = 38358
731-686-3610
731-686-3613 fax
www.airframesinc.com
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From:=20 Skip=20 Slater
Sent: Wednesday, October 09, = 2013 2:24=20 PM
Subject: [LML] Re: BAGGAGE DOOR = DISASTER

Peter,
   I have a solenoid = operated baggage=20 door release on my ES.  It began as a mechanical system, but the=20 mechanism was not easy to push open, so I switched to a solenoid a few = years=20 ago.  I considered the possibility of an inadvertent inflight = activation,=20 so I included a microswitch that opens the circuit to the solenoid = whenever my=20 door is latched closed.  So far it's worked = flawlessly.
   By the way, before I = went to the=20 solenoid, I had my baggage door open in flight one day climbing = out at=20 140-150 KIAS.  I simply hadn't fully latched it and = it popped=20 open.  I wouldn't have known it had happened if I didn't have a = "Baggage=20 Door Open" annunciator light in my=20 panel.  I'd seen that light before a few times when the switch = that=20 activated it got out of adjustment and assumed that's what had = happened this=20 time.  Then I started feeling a draft on my neck and looked over = my=20 shoulder to see the door fully open.  Much to my surprise it was = steady=20 as a rock.  I immediately reduced power and slowed down as much = as=20 possible, lowering my flaps as I decelerated and began descending for = a=20 landing at the nearest airport.  Amazingly, with the flaps down, = the door=20 also came down from fully open to about 1/4 open.  I tried = modulating the=20 flaps a little and the door moved up and down with them.  It = remained=20 stable in all positions until I landed.  I checked everything=20 out, found no damage whatsoever, closed the door and took = off. =20 I was very fortunate that there was nothing in the baggage area that = could=20 have been sucked out but as a result of this experience, I now pack my = bags such that nothing small or light is near the door just in=20 case.  I always try to have my largest bag go in last and block = the door=20 opening so nothing around it could get out.  Thankfully, I've = never had a=20 repeat occurrence of the door coming open.
   Skip Slater
  =20 N540ES  
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