X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Wed, 09 Oct 2013 15:24:40 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from mail-pa0-f45.google.com ([209.85.220.45] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.7) with ESMTPS id 6508511 for lml@lancaironline.net; Wed, 09 Oct 2013 12:18:30 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.220.45; envelope-from=legacyl2k@gmail.com Received: by mail-pa0-f45.google.com with SMTP id rd3so1276180pab.32 for ; Wed, 09 Oct 2013 09:17:55 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.68.244.2 with SMTP id xc2mr8876770pbc.58.1381335474955; Wed, 09 Oct 2013 09:17:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.5.161 with HTTP; Wed, 9 Oct 2013 09:17:54 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: X-Original-Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2013 09:17:54 -0700 X-Original-Message-ID: Subject: Re: [LML] Removing vacuum pump? From: Mike Larkin X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b33cb784cecf004e8513a1a --047d7b33cb784cecf004e8513a1a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Plus you don't waste precious HP running the pump. This came up when we were looking at the advantages of running electronic ignition vs mags on some of the Redbull airplanes. Less loss for accessories, more power to the prop... Mike 4LL On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 9:13 AM, Craig Berland wrote: > I have an all-electric airplane as well and chose to not have any vacuum > supplied to the Dukes valve. The only difference is the rate in which > pressurization starts building in the cabin on takeoff roll. Once > airborne, vacuum has no effect on the pressurization system. I choose to > apply power a little more slowly than some pilots. This prevents any > pressurization discomfort and typically I don't need any right brake to > hold centerline. Takeoff distance is not an issue. If I can land there, I > can easily takeoff there. I know one pilot who has developed an electronic > circuit to control a small electric vacuum pump based on the landing gear > position. So there are several options. In my opinion, keeping the engine > driven pump is the least desirable. > > Craig Berland > N7VG > > > Hello Dico, > You will need a vacuum port to the Dukes pressure valve for the > pressurization to work correctly, I do not have any gyro instruments either > but I needed to install an electric vacuum pump near the Dukes valve > Kamal T > N1104T > > > > > -- > For archives and unsub > http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml/List.html > -- Mike Larkin LarkinAviationConsulting LegacyL2K@gmail.com 602-770-6054 --047d7b33cb784cecf004e8513a1a Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Plus you don't waste precious HP running the= pump.=A0 This came up when we were looking at the advantages of running el= ectronic ignition vs mags on some of the Redbull airplanes.=A0 Less loss fo= r accessories, more power to the prop...

Mike

4LL

On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 9:13 AM, Craig Berland <= span dir=3D"ltr"><cberland@systems3.net> wrote:
I have an all-electric airplane as well and = chose to not have any vacuum supplied to the Dukes valve. =A0The only diffe= rence is the rate in which pressurization starts building in the cabin on t= akeoff roll. =A0Once airborne, vacuum has no effect on the pressurization s= ystem. =A0 I choose to apply power a little more slowly than some pilots. = =A0This prevents any pressurization discomfort and typically I don't ne= ed any right brake to hold centerline. =A0Takeoff distance is not an issue.= =A0If I can land there, I can easily takeoff there. =A0I know one pilot wh= o has developed an electronic circuit to control a small electric vacuum pu= mp based on the landing gear position. =A0So there are several options. =A0= In my opinion, keeping the engine driven pump is the least desirable.

Craig Berland
N7VG


Hello Dico,
You will need a vacuum port to the Dukes pressure valve for the pressurizat= ion to work correctly, I do not have any gyro instruments either but I need= ed to install an electric vacuum pump near the Dukes valve
Kamal T
N1104T




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