Mailing List lml@lancaironline.net Message #67115
From: <Sky2high@aol.com>
Subject: Re: [LML] anti-skid (ABS) brakes on the Lancair
Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2013 09:29:50 -0400 (EDT)
To: <lml@lancaironline.net>
Interesting.  I see the T-45 has nose-wheel steering - I.E. it is not steered by differential wheel braking.  An ABS system for wee Lancairs would require main wheel independence.  Take off rolls frequently required tapping the right brake to stay on the centerline until the rudder has authority - all of that caused by the left turning tendencies induced by the prop and resulting airflow. 
 
I like the logic that the T-45 ABS system waited until the wheels were spun up on landing.  Do the wheels spin up properly on patchy ice? 
 
Grayhawk
 
PS:  I only have one brake pedal in my car for all 4 wheels, 2 pedals in the plane.  Hmmmmm, the BMW and Honda touring motorcycles offer ABS braking, independent for front and rear wheels as there are separate controls for each.
 
 
In a message dated 9/24/2013 6:40:32 A.M. Central Daylight Time, cwfmd@yahoo.com writes:
USN T-45 has awesome anti skid
IPs would demo holding brakes on touchdown during "no flare" navy style landing
System was smart enough to allow wheels to spool up to ground speed and then apply max braking. I have heard the system compensates at millisecond response time so it is a far better feedback system than human perception based on yaw and Gx sensing. Human perception loop is at least 300 msec and probably much longer.
I suggest the steering and icing concerns have already been addressed in standard automotive systems. This reasoning also explains why an interface to a fast inertial sensor is required, as in AHRS (40 packet bursts/second on grtAvionics.com)

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