Return-Path: Received: from ddi.digital.net ([198.69.104.2]) by truman.olsusa.com (Post.Office MTA v3.1.2 release (PO203-101c) ID# 0-44819U2500L250S0) with ESMTP id AAA7485 for ; Sat, 26 Sep 1998 19:20:52 -0400 Received: from john (max-roc6-25.digital.net [208.14.38.25]) by ddi.digital.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id TAA07286 for ; Sat, 26 Sep 1998 19:20:46 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19980926131733.00725a28@mail.digital.net> Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1998 13:17:33 -0400 To: lancair.list@olsusa.com From: John Cooper Subject: Carbon vs. Glass In-Reply-To: <199809252044_MC2-5AB8-AE02@compuserve.com> X-Mailing-List: lancair.list@olsusa.com Mime-Version: 1.0 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> << Lancair Builders' Mail List >> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> Guy-- Thanks for the numbers. They were more useful than the ones I was using, since they apparently reflected the "layed-up" condition rather than just the strength of the fibers themselves. I am assuming that "msi" means "million pounds per square inch", right? Also, I just got back from the hangar where I was working on the center console "lids". I remeasured the distance from the engine CG to the main spar and it was 52", not 40". I reverified that the longeron-to-spar distance was in fact 17" (to the bottom of the spar). So the 52" dimension makes the stress in the longerons 900# per G, not 706# as in my previous post. 450# per longeron per G... Using your Young's Modulus numbers: spruce=1.57mpsi glass=2.42mpsi carbon=9.97mpsi the ratios normalize to 1 : 1.54 : 6.35 instead of the figures that I used in the last post, which were 1 : 7 : 21 Recalculating using my original areas, I get: AE(spruce) = 1 x 0.56 AE(glass) = 2.42 x 0.12 = 0.29 AE(carbon) = 9.97 x .12 = 1.20 sum of above = 2.05 So therefore the percent of load carried by each material is: Spruce .56/2.05 = 27% Glass .29/2.05 = 14% Carbon 1.20/2.05 = 59% For the original configuration (without carbon fiber): Spruce = .56/0.85 = 66% Glass = .29/0.85 = 34%