Mailing List lml@lancaironline.net Message #66419
From: Gary Casey <casey.gary@yahoo.com>
Sender: <marv@lancaironline.net>
Subject: Re: Potential Problem-Engine Vibration
Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2013 11:42:57 -0400
To: <lml@lancaironline.net>
Thanks, "Caudett's husband" for the informative post.  I have some comments on his findings, in [brackets below].  No answers, so just skip reading it if you like :-)
Gary Casey

Oshkosh/Vibration, or what I learned on my summer vacation:

First, all 550 Continental crankshaft separations and cracks have been
traced to prop strikes or likely prop strikes.  We are back on flight status
with 15SC.  [Were the crankshafts inspected after the strikes?  If so, the inspection method might be suspect.]

Les Doud (Applications Engineer) of Hartzell, spoke at Jeff Edwards Forum
and spent 30+ minutes with me later discussing our Vibrations.  The most
interesting point was the weight of a metal 3 blade prop causes it to act as
a gyroscope. [Of course.  All props have more inertia than the engine itself, I think even the composite ones]  The engine and all moving parts can create a harmonic more
easily as a result.[A "harmonic" is a vibration double or half in frequency as the base vibration.  A harmonic of what?  The torsional excitation frequency?  An engine vibration frequency?  Just saying "a harmonic" doesn't say anything.]  Lighter weight composite props have much less gyro
effect and therefore are inherently smoother.[Well, I don't know if they are "inherently" smoother.  They tend to exhibit resonant frequencies higher than heavier aluminum props, but is that good or bad?  I don't know.]  Our stiff composite airframes [Composite materials are somewhat LESS stiff than metal structures - carbon-based structures being stiffer than ons based on glass fibers.  That's why composite airframes are typcially on the heavy side - to get the stiffness high enough.  On my ES I can see the wings flex and I was never able to do that on any metal airplane.]
are more susceptible than an aluminum one with "every rivet acting as a
damper".[I'm not sure I buy that.  Sure, every joint in a metal plane is a source of damping, but then every fiber-to-epoxy joint in a composite is a source of damping.  I don't know whether metal or composite planes absorb vibrations better, but I think composite planes have the edge here]   I previously thought the main reason was composite blades had less
resonance than metal. [Everything has a "resonance", it's just a matter of the frequency and the damping inherent in the structure.  Aluminum blades, being a homogenous structure, certainly have less damping that composite.  They will probably have a higher resonant frequency.  But then there is the question of the mode of vibration, but that's another discussion.]  

After all the obvious sources have been checked and fixed, the best
diagnosis tool is a in flight Spectrum Analysis and Plot with the top of the
line DynaVibe (tool cost $3000+).  At least that is what the DynaVibe rep.
said in a forum and Les agreed.  Mount the sensor tightly on something solid
like a spar cap, horizontal and parallel to the spar (not on anything like
the panel dust cover). [I certainly agree with that.]  Determining increased first, second or third order
vibrations(crank rotation speed, twice crank speed, firing frequency] narrows down the source.  Les thought in my case of unpredictable
vibration, the free iPhone ap "Vibration" could be accurate enough to find
the major shake.  [That almost makes me want to go out and buy an iPhone!  I think maybe I will]

Les advised checking prop orientation for parallel alignment of one of the
blades with #6 cylinder at Top Dead Center on compression.  This is best for
smoothness. [I fail to see a connection between the prop orientation and vibration, not that there couldn't be.  In the case of a 4-cylinder engine and 2-blade prop I can see it.]

Paul Snyder, an Engineer with Lord Mounts, thinks he may be able to help.
He cited the Mooney Ovation with a vibration problem that was improved by a
single stiffer mount on the left front (probably airframe-specific].  Early Cirrus with 550's and 3 blade
Hartzell's vibrated, later versions have 6 mounts with 4 near the front to
better balance the static weight of the prop and engine[Yes, in a Continental with metal prop the CG is very close to the front mount, so it has to support all the engine weight].  He may have
suggestions when he knows the part number of the brown (silicone) mounts
supplied to me by Lancair.

Oshkosh is a excellent resource for all things aviation[ain't that the truth!].  You can button
hole the engineer/designer/owner and get a lot closer to answers.  I was
impressed with their willingness to help us and the lack of defensiveness on
their part.  

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