X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2013 12:12:11 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from omr-m07.mx.aol.com ([64.12.143.81] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.5) with ESMTPS id 6355128 for lml@lancaironline.net; Sat, 29 Jun 2013 22:43:04 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=64.12.143.81; envelope-from=asw20747@aol.com Received: from mtaomg-mb04.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mb04.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.75]) by omr-m07.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 36459700000AD for ; Sat, 29 Jun 2013 22:42:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-mub002c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mub002.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.192.69]) by mtaomg-mb04.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 0DD64E000085 for ; Sat, 29 Jun 2013 22:42:29 -0400 (EDT) References: <8D040394B7A0FBE-E90-2B0E1@webmail-d288.sysops.aol.com> X-Original-To: lml@lancaironline.net Subject: Hydraulic pump cycling / Replacing dump valve/ UPDATE In-Reply-To: <8D040394B7A0FBE-E90-2B0E1@webmail-d288.sysops.aol.com> X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Erik Larson X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--------MB_8D0435298B9653D_E90_FD46B_webmail-d288.sysops.aol.com" X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 37834-STANDARD Received: from 108.199.253.169 by webmail-d288.sysops.aol.com (205.188.93.234) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Sat, 29 Jun 2013 22:42:28 -0400 X-Original-Message-Id: <8D0435298AFDFB9-E90-4E73A@webmail-d288.sysops.aol.com> X-Originating-IP: [108.199.253.169] X-Original-Date: Sat, 29 Jun 2013 22:42:28 -0400 (EDT) x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:320244160:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d294b51cf9b157b6d This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ----------MB_8D0435298B9653D_E90_FD46B_webmail-d288.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" First.... thanks to Danny, Skyhawk, Andy and anyone else that responded to = our hydraulic pump cycling issue. =20 We took your collective advise, isolated each cylinder, then the pump and f= inally the DDV (Dumb Dump Valve) and like Danny said.... it WAS to be found= in the.....Dumb Dump Valve. Changing the valve was VERY difficult.... the only access was blind, with n= o less than 5 connections that had to be clocked precisely to mate up again= with the hard lines. The thought of upgrading to a "High Quality" valve w= as considered, but if it wasn't the exact same dimensions, the hard plumbin= g would have to be changed....we'll save that project for another day....or= year. Thanks again for the help..... my only advice to anyone else with these sym= ptoms..... G.D.V.E. =3D Go Dump Valve Early! Erik Larson Legacy/N74FX I have a Legacy, 6 1/2 years, appx 650 hours, we started experiencing momen= tary hydraulic pump cycling averaging now every 6-8 minutes for a micro sec= ond. It's time to start trouble shooting to find the leaky bypass and following = some previous postings on the issue, it seems that the best place to start = may be the dump valve, then the cylinders and finally the pump. At first glance it looks like getting the dump valve changed out could be q= uite a job. Anyone that's done it recently care to share some Helpful Hint= s? It looks like the only way to get to it, is by disassembling the throttle q= uadrant, even then it looks tight? Thanks for any advise you may have. Erik Larson Legacy/N74FX ----------MB_8D0435298B9653D_E90_FD46B_webmail-d288.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" First.... thanks to Danny, = Skyhawk, Andy and anyone else that responded to our hydraulic pump cycling = issue.  

We took your collective advise, isolated each cylinder, then the pump = and finally the DDV (Dumb Dump Valve) and like Danny said.... it WAS to be = found in the.....Dumb Dump Valve.

Changing the valve was VERY difficult.... the only access was blind, w= ith no less than 5 connections that had to be clocked precisely to mate up = again with the hard lines.  The thought of upgrading to a "High Qualit= y" valve was considered, but if it wasn't the exact same dimensions, the ha= rd plumbing would have to be changed....we'll save that project for another= day....or year.

Thanks again for the help..... my only advice to anyone else with thes= e symptoms..... G.D.V.E. =3D Go Dump Valve Early!

Erik= Larson
Lega= cy/N74FX





I ha= ve a Legacy, 6 1/2 years, appx 650 hours, we started experiencing momentary= hydraulic pump cycling averaging now every 6-8 minutes for a micro second.=

It's= time to start trouble shooting to find the leaky bypass and following some= previous postings on the issue, it seems that the best place to start may = be the dump valve, then the cylinders and finally the pump.

At f= irst glance it looks like getting the dump valve changed out could be quite= a job.  Anyone that's done it recently care to share some Helpful Hin= ts?

It l= ooks like the only way to get to it, is by disassembling the throttle quadr= ant, even then it looks tight?

Than= ks for any advise you may have.

Erik= Larson
Lega= cy/N74FX
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