Return-Path: Received: from arl-img-7.compuserve.com ([149.174.217.137]) by truman.olsusa.com (Post.Office MTA v3.1.2 release (PO203-101c) ID# 0-44819U2500L250S0) with ESMTP id AAA29312 for ; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 20:45:10 -0400 Received: (from root@localhost) by arl-img-7.compuserve.com (8.8.6/8.8.6/2.14) id UAA09261 for lancair.list@olsusa.com; Fri, 25 Sep 1998 20:45:03 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 20:44:30 -0400 From: Guy Buchanan Subject: Carbon vs. Glass Sender: Guy Buchanan To: Blind.Copy.Receiver@compuserve.com Message-ID: <199809252044_MC2-5AB8-AE02@compuserve.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline X-Mailing-List: lancair.list@olsusa.com <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> << Lancair Builders' Mail List >> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> John, Some data for your inquiry: Material Modulus Comp. Linear strain Stress to failure Spruce perp. 1.57 msi (flex) 5.6 ksi 0.4% to grain E-glass/epoxy 2.4 msi (comp) 44 ksi 1.8% equal 0/45/90/-45 E-glass/epoxy 2.72 msi (comp) 64 ksi 2.4% equal 0/90 Low mod carbon/epoxy 5.37 msi (comp) 34 ksi 0.6% equal 0/45/90/-45 Low mod carbon/epoxy 7.15 msi (comp) 52 ksi 0.7% equal 0/90 Low mod carbon/epoxy 9.97 msi (comp) 64 ksi 0.6% 70% uni Thus, in a pure tug the spruce will fail first, the carbon second, and the glass last. However, when you build a sandwich panel with a symmetric laminate, and then add higher stiffness material to one face, you CAN shift the neutral exis faster than you increase the section inertia, thereby reducing the section modulus and therefore the beam bending strength. More importantly to the fastidious, the coefficients of thermal expansion between carbon and glass are quite different (0.02e-6 v 8.6e-6 mm/(mm-C)) meaning that temporary, and possibly permenant, deformations will show at each modification, making your beautiful Lancair look, ahem, shall we say, lumpy? (Permenant deformations occur because of shrinkage, temporary because of temperature and humidity changes.) Food for thought, Guy Buchanan Buchanan & Newcomer