X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Fri, 17 May 2013 13:24:59 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from mail-pb0-f54.google.com ([209.85.160.54] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.5) with ESMTPS id 6276506 for lml@lancaironline.net; Fri, 17 May 2013 11:37:31 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.160.54; envelope-from=pjdmiller@gmail.com Received: by mail-pb0-f54.google.com with SMTP id ro8so3401551pbb.41 for ; Fri, 17 May 2013 08:36:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.67.4.129 with SMTP id ce1mr49232960pad.107.1368805015827; Fri, 17 May 2013 08:36:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from [192.168.1.131] (S010620aa4b008706.cg.shawcable.net. [174.0.112.194]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id fp2sm11626021pbb.36.2013.05.17.08.36.53 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 17 May 2013 08:36:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Paul Miller Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_8004AB30-1AF0-47B1-8F64-2B723AD569AA" X-Original-Message-Id: <75C921CA-9880-4DFE-89D9-345FDB3B1194@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.3 \(1503\)) Subject: Re: [LML] Tires X-Original-Date: Fri, 17 May 2013 09:36:52 -0600 References: X-Original-To: "Lancair Mailing List" In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1503) --Apple-Mail=_8004AB30-1AF0-47B1-8F64-2B723AD569AA Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 That is because Desser takes the proven core that still has original = rubber and they add a new layer similar to the thickness layer in = original tires. Desser says there is a limit of rubber that a new tire = can have added so the retreads actually have a good core and more rubber = which is why I always liked them. Great value except on Legacy RG. There is the "kit" from Lancair to remove those bolts and replace with = countersunk screws to allow more tire-to-fork clearance, maybe 3/16 to = 1/4 inch extra. I did it, countersunk the bottom of the 4-bolt holes = in each fork. I removed the forks to do that. I ended up having to = realign the mains because I lost the original alignment in that process. = Also, there is no simple way to tighten those new screws unless you = remove the tires. That makes the alignment process very tough. Not = worth the effort in hindsight. Paul Calgary =20 On 2013-05-17, at 9:05 AM, "Jon Socolof" wrote: > Just an update, I tried the Desser Retread tires for my Legacy (not = the Monster retreads). Desser told me they were exactly the same as OEM = 5.00x5s. The fit was marginal at first but after a few hours, they grew = a little. They=92re touching top fork bolts and probably won=92t fit the = wheel wells now. They are probably at least .5in larger than OEMs. I = will have to R&R and try and return them. > =20 > Jon --Apple-Mail=_8004AB30-1AF0-47B1-8F64-2B723AD569AA Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 That = is because Desser takes the proven core that still has original rubber = and they add a new layer similar to the thickness layer in original = tires. Desser says there is a limit of rubber that a new tire can = have added so the retreads actually have a good core and more rubber = which is why I always liked them. Great value except on Legacy = RG.

There is the "kit" from Lancair to remove those = bolts and replace with countersunk screws to allow more tire-to-fork = clearance, maybe 3/16 to 1/4 inch extra. I did it, countersunk = the bottom of the 4-bolt holes in each fork. I removed the forks = to do that. I ended up having to realign the mains because I lost = the original alignment in that process. Also, there is no simple = way to tighten those new screws unless you remove the tires. That = makes the alignment process very tough. Not worth the effort in = hindsight.

Paul

Calgary =

On 2013-05-17, at 9:05 AM, "Jon Socolof" = <jsocolof@ershire.com> = wrote:

Just an update, I tried the Desser Retread tires = for my Legacy (not the Monster retreads). Desser told me they were = exactly the same as OEM 5.00x5s. The fit was marginal at first but = after a few hours, they grew a little. They=92re touching top fork bolts = and probably won=92t fit the wheel wells now. They are probably at least = .5in larger than OEMs. I will have to R&R and try and return = them.