Mailing List lml@lancaironline.net Message #65440
From: Jeff Edwards <vtailjeff@aol.com>
Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Traveling with a dog
Date: Fri, 3 May 2013 15:46:47 -0500
To: Lancair Mailing List <lml@lancaironline.net>
Dog refused to cooperate with investigators. Lawyerd up. Accident was 11/29/2010 in Hubbard, Or. N42BK


Jeff 

On May 3, 2013, at 8:30 AM, Bruce Whitaker <brucewhitaker67877@yahoo.com> wrote:

Was the dog the cause of the accident?


From: "vtailjeff@aol.com" <vtailjeff@aol.com>
To: lml@lancaironline.net
Sent: Thursday, May 2, 2013 4:29 PM
Subject: [LML] Re: Traveling with a dog

Brings to mind a 360 accident in Oregon involving Mr. Kennedy and his unrestrained large dog. Pilot lost control on takeoff, dog survived, pilot did not. Just saying....
 
 
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From: Joseph Czabaranek <joeczabaranek@gmail.com>
To: lml <lml@lancaironline.net>
Sent: Thu, May 2, 2013 4:22 pm
Subject: [LML] Re: Traveling with a dog

I regularly fly with my 60lb Vizsla in the back of my 360. 
 
 I got him a harness marketed for securing large dogs in the back of your car.  My harnesses attach to the overhead hardpoints, leaving the phenolic hardpoints in the aft bulkhead available to attach the dog.  A U-bolt anchor on each side, 3/16" cord from REI between the two, and an 18" long "shockle" made from 1" tubular webbing and bungee cord keeps him secure in the back but free to stand up and turn around.  I made the shockle, but I know you can buy one.
 
I use large mutt muffs on the Vizsla.  I have medium muffs for my 65lb greyhound (also fits in the 360, but being a greyhound is awkward as hell).  The dogs resisted them at first but now they'll keep them on for the duration of a 6hr flight.  Before Ive cleared the runway after touchdown they strip em off.  The muffs must be doing something positive for them.
 
Your dog wont need 02.  If your only responsibility is sitting in the back seat, you are fine below 25,000.   At 16k cognitive ability might be reduced and the pup might have an easier time sleeping but no harm done.
 
Joe Cz
N424DH  
On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 7:02 AM, Dan Ballin <dballin@gmail.com> wrote:
This has come up on occasion, but would like to hear thoughts on taking a 40 lbs Aussie in a Legacy.

Issues are:
Crate- thinking about a soft crate.  Hard to imagine getting something bigger in the back

Hearing - Probably Mutt Muffs

O2  - Going over the Rockies so probably 16K. I know I need O2 but any experience with dogs?  Any vets out there?

Dan Ballin
LEG2 N386DM  about 120 hrs



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