X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Thu, 02 May 2013 17:20:18 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from mail-ve0-f180.google.com ([209.85.128.180] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.4) with ESMTPS id 6240509 for lml@lancaironline.net; Thu, 02 May 2013 15:50:53 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.128.180; envelope-from=joeczabaranek@gmail.com Received: by mail-ve0-f180.google.com with SMTP id pa12so891073veb.39 for ; Thu, 02 May 2013 12:50:17 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.220.100.138 with SMTP id y10mr2683141vcn.51.1367524217487; Thu, 02 May 2013 12:50:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.58.168.202 with HTTP; Thu, 2 May 2013 12:50:17 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: X-Original-Date: Thu, 2 May 2013 14:50:17 -0500 X-Original-Message-ID: Subject: Re: [LML] Traveling with a dog From: Joseph Czabaranek X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b3a9580348a4204dbc18b46 --047d7b3a9580348a4204dbc18b46 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I regularly fly with my 60lb Vizsla in the back of my 360. I got him a harness marketed for securing large dogs in the back of your car. My harnesses attach to the overhead hardpoints, leaving the phenolic hardpoints in the aft bulkhead available to attach the dog. A U-bolt anchor on each side, 3/16" cord from REI between the two, and an 18" long "shockle" made from 1" tubular webbing and bungee cord keeps him secure in the back but free to stand up and turn around. I made the shockle, but I know you can buy one. I use large mutt muffs on the Vizsla. I have medium muffs for my 65lb greyhound (also fits in the 360, but being a greyhound is awkward as hell). The dogs resisted them at first but now they'll keep them on for the duration of a 6hr flight. Before Ive cleared the runway after touchdown they strip em off. The muffs must be doing something positive for them. Your dog wont need 02. If your only responsibility is sitting in the back seat, you are fine below 25,000. At 16k cognitive ability might be reduced and the pup might have an easier time sleeping but no harm done. Joe Cz N424DH On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 7:02 AM, Dan Ballin wrote: > This has come up on occasion, but would like to hear thoughts on > taking a 40 lbs Aussie in a Legacy. > > Issues are: > Crate- thinking about a soft crate. Hard to imagine getting something > bigger in the back > > Hearing - Probably Mutt Muffs > > O2 - Going over the Rockies so probably 16K. I know I need O2 but any > experience with dogs? Any vets out there? > > Dan Ballin > LEG2 N386DM about 120 hrs > --047d7b3a9580348a4204dbc18b46 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I regularly fly with my 60lb Vizsla in the back of my 360.=A0
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=A0I got him a harness marketed for securing large dogs in the back of= your car.=A0 My harnesses attach to the overhead hardpoints, leaving the p= henolic hardpoints in the aft bulkhead available to attach the dog.=A0 A U-= bolt anchor on each side, 3/16" cord from REI between the two, and an = 18" long "shockle" made from 1" tubular webbing and bun= gee cord keeps him secure in the back but free to stand up and turn around.= =A0 I made the shockle, but I know you can buy one.
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I use large mutt muffs on the Vizsla.=A0 I have medium muffs for my 65= lb greyhound (also fits in the 360, but being a greyhound is awkward as hel= l).=A0 The dogs resisted them at first but now they'll keep them on for= the duration of a 6hr flight.=A0 Before Ive cleared the runway after touch= down they strip em off.=A0 The muffs must be doing something positive for t= hem.
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Your dog wont need 02.=A0 If your only responsibility is sitting in th= e back seat,=A0you are fine below 25,000.=A0=A0 At 16k cognitive ability mi= ght be reduced and the pup=A0might have an easier time sleeping but no harm= done.
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Joe Cz
N424DH=A0=A0
On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 7:02 AM, Dan Ballin <dba= llin@gmail.com> wrote:
This has come up on occasion, but would like to hear thoughts on takin= g a 40 lbs Aussie in a Legacy.

Issues are:
Crate- thi= nking about a soft crate.=A0 Hard to imagine getting something bigger in th= e back

Hearing - Probably Mutt Muffs

O2=A0 - Going over the= Rockies so probably 16K. I know I need O2 but any experience with dogs?=A0= Any vets out there?

=
Dan Ballin
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LEG2 N386DM=A0 about 1= 20 hrs

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