X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2013 19:57:43 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from mail-pa0-f51.google.com ([209.85.220.51] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.4) with ESMTPS id 6233521 for lml@lancaironline.net; Tue, 30 Apr 2013 01:17:20 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.220.51; envelope-from=keith.smith@gmail.com Received: by mail-pa0-f51.google.com with SMTP id lj1so142711pab.38 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 2013 22:16:45 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.66.121.202 with SMTP id lm10mr45922305pab.138.1367299005457; Mon, 29 Apr 2013 22:16:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.102.205 with HTTP; Mon, 29 Apr 2013 22:16:45 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: X-Original-Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2013 01:16:45 -0400 X-Original-Message-ID: Subject: Re: [LML] Re: range From: Keith Smith X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b41b7ec85af5104db8d1bf2 --047d7b41b7ec85af5104db8d1bf2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Maybe it's because I hand fly almost all the time, but I left today on a 3hr 15min flight with a light urge to use the restroom...never felt a thing during the whole flight. In the 400 hours I've put on my LNC2, I've only felt the need to use the restroom once. Next time that happens, I'm just going to land. That one flight was not fun. On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 2:17 PM, Troneill wrote: > Thanks for sharing your experience, Dan. May I ask just where on the > landing gear strut you mount your Venturi... And what kind of cockpit > receptacle did you find works? > Also, what size Venturi? > > Terrence > LNC2 235/320 N211AL w/ 258 hrs.. > > Sent from my iPad > > On Apr 29, 2013, at 12:05 AM, "Dan Schaefer" > wrote: > > > Interesting discussion here and, to those of you 235/320 drivers who who > haven't reached the "Golden Years" - i.e., not yet gotten nearly as old as > me, you're gonna need some kind of relief tube system when you do. > > > > For a time, I used the gel-packs but found that the only way I could be > sure I could get gravity assist (peeing downhill) was to unhook the > seatbelts, turn on the left side which required getting a leg over the > stick and trying to hit the opening in the bag - all the while keeping one > hand on the stick so I wouldn't be involved in some interesting aerobatics. > In fact, that's the only reason I installed a wing-leveler after some > unfortunate mishaps in turbulence (at least my seat covers come out for a > trip to the cleaners). > > > > I'm sure there are many solutions but I finally settled on installing a > small venturi tube on the left landing gear strut which is only exposed > when the gear is down. It's connected via tubing to a container that I can > use without turning on my side. Works pretty well though I have to slow > down to gear speed to use it. Incidentally, I did test the thing by pouring > a container of water into it which went out so fast I'm very careful when I > use it. In any case, it sure saves time (and fuel) on a long cross-country, > eliminating the biological stops when I still have half of my fuel > remaining! > > > > Dan Schaefer > > Early 235 - N235SP. First flight 1993 and still going strong. > > > > -- > > For archives and unsub > http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml/List.html > > -- > For archives and unsub > http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml/List.html > --047d7b41b7ec85af5104db8d1bf2 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Maybe it's because=A0 I hand fly almost all = the time, but I left today on a 3hr 15min flight with a light urge to use t= he restroom...never felt a thing during the whole flight.

In t= he 400 hours I've put on my LNC2, I've only felt the need to use th= e restroom once.

Next time that happens, I'm just going to land. That one flig= ht was not fun.

On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 2:17 PM, Troneill <= ;troneill@charter= .net> wrote:

Thanks for sharing your experience, Dan. =A0= May I ask just where on the landing gear strut you mount your =A0Venturi...= And what kind of cockpit receptacle did you find works?
Also, what size Venturi?

Terrence
LNC2 235/320 N211AL w/ 258 hrs..

Sent from my iPad

On Apr 29, 2013, at 12:05 AM, "Dan Schaefer" <dfs155@roadrunner.com> wrote:

> Interesting discussion here and, to those of you 235/320 drivers who w= ho haven't reached the "Golden Years" - i.e., not yet gotten = nearly as old as me, you're gonna need some kind of relief tube system = when you do.
>
> For a time, I used the gel-packs but found that the only way I could b= e sure I could get gravity assist (peeing downhill) was to unhook the seatb= elts, turn on the left side which required getting a leg over the stick and= trying to hit the opening in the bag - all the while keeping one hand on t= he stick so I wouldn't be involved in some interesting aerobatics. In f= act, that's the only reason I installed a wing-leveler after some unfor= tunate mishaps in turbulence (at least my seat covers come out for a trip t= o the cleaners).
>
> I'm sure there are many solutions but I finally settled on install= ing a small venturi tube on the left landing gear strut which is only expos= ed when the gear is down. It's connected via tubing to a container that= I can use without turning on my side. Works pretty well though I have to s= low down to gear speed to use it. Incidentally, I did test the thing by pou= ring a container of water into it which went out so fast I'm very caref= ul when I use it. In any case, it sure saves time (and fuel) on a long cros= s-country, eliminating the biological stops when I still have half of my fu= el remaining!
>
> Dan Schaefer
> Early 235 - =A0N235SP. First flight 1993 and still going strong.
>
> --
> For archives and unsub http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/= lml/List.html

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