X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2013 14:17:27 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from mta41.charter.net ([216.33.127.83] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.4) with ESMTP id 6231651 for lml@lancaironline.net; Mon, 29 Apr 2013 09:23:19 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=216.33.127.83; envelope-from=troneill@charter.net Received: from imp09 ([10.20.200.9]) by mta41.charter.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.02 201-2260-151-103-20110920) with ESMTP id <20130429132244.AAB10143.mta41.charter.net@imp09> for ; Mon, 29 Apr 2013 09:22:44 -0400 Received: from [10.0.2.3] ([75.132.130.89]) by imp09 with smtp.charter.net id VpNj1l00L1vsS2r05pNkwu; Mon, 29 Apr 2013 09:22:44 -0400 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=Cp/n6QED c=1 sm=1 a=5qs0V4O3azrKx6HjxWTekQ==:17 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=hOpmn2quAAAA:8 a=mROZLCGm0QYA:10 a=doupyKFmAAAA:8 a=Ia-xEzejAAAA:8 a=PtM2IjZ54KeTFog4gBYA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=CVU0O5Kb7MsA:10 a=0vUscowIxtUA:10 a=5qs0V4O3azrKx6HjxWTekQ==:117 X-Auth-id: dHJvbmVpbGxAY2hhcnRlci5uZXQ= Subject: Re: [LML] Re: range References: From: Troneill Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: iPad Mail (10B141) In-Reply-To: X-Original-Message-Id: <54224733-784A-4D8A-B4C3-71CEE9F56477@charter.net> X-Original-Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2013 08:22:45 -0500 X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Thanks for sharing your experience, Dan. May I ask just where on the landin= g gear strut you mount your Venturi... And what kind of cockpit receptacle d= id you find works? Also, what size Venturi? Terrence LNC2 235/320 N211AL w/ 258 hrs.. Sent from my iPad On Apr 29, 2013, at 12:05 AM, "Dan Schaefer" wrote: > Interesting discussion here and, to those of you 235/320 drivers who who h= aven't reached the "Golden Years" - i.e., not yet gotten nearly as old as me= , you're gonna need some kind of relief tube system when you do. >=20 > For a time, I used the gel-packs but found that the only way I could be su= re I could get gravity assist (peeing downhill) was to unhook the seatbelts,= turn on the left side which required getting a leg over the stick and tryin= g to hit the opening in the bag - all the while keeping one hand on the stic= k so I wouldn't be involved in some interesting aerobatics. In fact, that's t= he only reason I installed a wing-leveler after some unfortunate mishaps in t= urbulence (at least my seat covers come out for a trip to the cleaners). >=20 > I'm sure there are many solutions but I finally settled on installing a sm= all venturi tube on the left landing gear strut which is only exposed when t= he gear is down. It's connected via tubing to a container that I can use wit= hout turning on my side. Works pretty well though I have to slow down to gea= r speed to use it. Incidentally, I did test the thing by pouring a container= of water into it which went out so fast I'm very careful when I use it. In a= ny case, it sure saves time (and fuel) on a long cross-country, eliminating t= he biological stops when I still have half of my fuel remaining! >=20 > Dan Schaefer > Early 235 - N235SP. First flight 1993 and still going strong.=20 >=20 > -- > For archives and unsub http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml/List.htm= l