X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2012 08:23:06 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from nm31-vm6.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com ([98.138.229.46] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0c2) with ESMTPS id 5887006 for lml@lancaironline.net; Mon, 19 Nov 2012 06:39:33 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=98.138.229.46; envelope-from=casey.gary@yahoo.com Received: from [98.138.90.50] by nm31.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Nov 2012 11:38:58 -0000 Received: from [98.138.89.170] by tm3.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Nov 2012 11:38:58 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1026.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Nov 2012 11:38:58 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 224298.30719.bm@omp1026.mail.ne1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 51289 invoked by uid 60001); 19 Nov 2012 11:38:58 -0000 DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Hgu4Od0DMDcKwHsRe9DK9bd7zthng6HUGltFgP6dmCXbsKzhgrbDkeuB4ZTOo0Kx6xxNw5xa+vCHcDmr6YS3sZp2Yb440IF9UVAu3btxBMa00avpHcvgUsCMRWFYjHYwroSty7yUvxcb63ijz8hdIcwVXC8HqnOy/8iTun962cM=; X-YMail-OSG: zU82ysgVM1nq2LOl70VlQXeXvpvLdLtD_IesHrZCfdo.Dz4 0MthDQ19tX1ByB3gzyC2WMAmov65w4GPWAqirj2OZoXgauYpZhn1LRClVHpr GUp.nDg_oaLqAU2tF4M7dP7TSLDrkWbqCg0X4k0KxGOUYLs7P5z8jQSVn6DV nN4BFpd6y629euTBt6pFvsy9JkiznUYLuUWWoj_5Cen.ov5ykqo7Wja_DLxt do91oBAT0nGMzEiAM_PB6eaHTDEgty2asSbiTHmwb0zRGqu95g3i53yhEZu2 VOcnDqIQbjD_5QHYa47x0.kmdx2NplIyjoId2YyxdGs2PMDz3RdtSnrtmMRK tRAzhhQM6p4liM3jvqxpWtKonm06IfAsqrYI4UlbKnIfWDYsE5NXbCroeqei gcPiKxyY.zsxe7DWAt_JhChOCDyHSzEXvseG55jrv4.Z_vpPBhfOLHa7x35z Bvcb1CsSnTbz0X3a.X.o1L6CUDh7H7TpRlVJ1wWUskMWdAvukn4DluC8Tc.R K4spnr.hDsqENBA56aDpj3ufw Received: from [71.208.47.125] by web120101.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 19 Nov 2012 03:38:58 PST X-Rocket-MIMEInfo: 001.001,SXQgd2lsbCBiZSBpbnRlcmVzdGluZyB0byBzZWUgd2hhdCB0aGUgcmVhbCBleHBlcnRzIHNheSwgYnV0IGl0IHNlZW1zIHRvIG1lIGxpa2UgdGhlIHdhc3RlIGdhdGUgaXMgYmxvY2tlZCBmcm9tIGNvbXBsZXRlbHkgY2xvc2luZy7CoCBPciB0aGVyZSBpcyBwaHlzaWNhbCBkYW1hZ2UgdG8gdGhlIHR1cmJvIGl0c2VsZiAoYnJva2VuIGJsYWRlcyBvciBzb21ldGhpbmcpLsKgIEknbGwgcHV0IG15IG1vbmV5IG9uIHRoZSB3YXN0ZSBnYXRlLgpHYXJ5IENhc2V5CgpPbiBhIHJlY2VudCBmbGlnaHQgdG8gQ2hpY2EBMAEBAQE- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.126.470 References: X-Original-Message-ID: <1353325138.46563.YahooMailNeo@web120101.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> X-Original-Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2012 03:38:58 -0800 (PST) From: Gary Casey Reply-To: Gary Casey Subject: Re: Unusual LIVP Manifold Pressure Reduction with Altitude Climb: Why so much? X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="1072509510-1665653344-1353325138=:46563" --1072509510-1665653344-1353325138=:46563 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable It will be interesting to see what the real experts say, but it seems to me= like the waste gate is blocked from completely closing.=A0 Or there is phy= sical damage to the turbo itself (broken blades or something).=A0 I'll put = my money on the waste gate.=0AGary Casey=0A=0AOn a recent flight to Chicago= , my MAP during WOT climb was normal and ample all the way to cruise FL220,= at which time I pulled throttle back to 31.5", dialed down RPM to 2350 (wh= ich increases MAP some, so readjust) and "Big Mixture Pull" to LOP 16.4gph.= All very normal. Cabin Pressure 5 psid.=0A=0AOn my return, departing dur= ing 30*F temps and cleaning some overnight rain-ice off the wings (via hang= er heat), I climbed out of Chicago WOT and had full MAP at departure, but t= hen observed a decreasing MAP during climb (numbers are below). Details be= low.=0A=0AI leveled off at 17,500 and observed WOT ~31" MAP and RPM 2690, 3= 2.3 gph, all engine parameters normal. I did not reduce throttle, I dialed= back RPM to 2350, and observed MAP reduce to 24" (and cabin altitude climb= ed with 1.5 psid). --1072509510-1665653344-1353325138=:46563 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
It will be int= eresting to see what the real experts say, but it seems to me like the wast= e gate is blocked from completely closing.  Or there is physical damag= e to the turbo itself (broken blades or something).  I'll put my money= on the waste gate.
Gary Casey

On a recent flight t= o Chicago, my MAP during WOT climb was normal and ample all the way to crui= se FL220, at which time I pulled throttle back to 31.5", dialed down RPM to= 2350 (which increases MAP some, so readjust) and "Big Mixture Pull" to LOP= 16.4gph. All very normal. Cabin Pressure 5 psid.

On my return, de= parting during 30*F temps and cleaning some overnight rain-ice off the wing= s (via hanger heat), I climbed out of Chicago WOT and had full MAP at depar= ture, but then observed a decreasing MAP during climb (numbers are below). Details below.

I leveled off at 17,500 and observed WOT ~3= 1" MAP and RPM 2690, 32.3 gph, all engine parameters normal. I did not red= uce throttle, I dialed back RPM to 2350, and observed MAP reduce to 24" (an= d cabin altitude climbed with 1.5 psid).
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