X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2012 18:15:44 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from eu1sys200aog109.obsmtp.com ([207.126.144.127] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0c1) with SMTPS id 5797493 for lml@lancaironline.net; Sun, 07 Oct 2012 15:27:55 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=207.126.144.127; envelope-from=lancair@meier.cc Received: from kdn6.futureweb.at ([85.125.90.138]) (using TLSv1) by eu1sys200aob109.postini.com ([207.126.147.11]) with SMTP ID DSNKUHHXmNO86glIHUGleQ7s7WJJzUrJSaJw@postini.com; Sun, 07 Oct 2012 19:27:57 UTC Received: from [192.168.168.9] (sjon195149219169.surfer.sjon.at [195.149.219.169]) (authenticated bits=0) by kdn6.futureweb.at (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q97JRJlU005750 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 7 Oct 2012 21:27:20 +0200 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.1 \(1498\)) Subject: Re: [LML] Piston oil cooling jets From: Christian Meier In-Reply-To: X-Original-Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2012 21:27:19 +0200 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Original-Message-Id: <482852C9-8208-40F2-B94F-6170662064F3@meier.cc> References: X-Original-To: "Lancair Mailing List" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1498) Tom, I have a IO 390 installed which has the piston cooling jets installed. = My cowl inlets a 4". Modifications on the cowl exit made little change = in CHT but up to 10=B0F change in Oil temp.=20 My Oil cooler is installed in front of Cyl#2, its the biggest I could = fit. My oiltemps in 75% cruise are 195 to 205=B0 my CHTs are 375max in = cruise. Never seen more than 390=B0 even on step climb in summer. Only = the Oil gets hot up to 225=B0 but never the CHT's I'm looking to lower my Oil temps now: little bigger inlets, tighter = plenum, better inlet diffusors, ... Check my Engine data: = https://my.savvyanalysis.com/public/ca78361a-b091-4cd6-95f1-a3978b83679f Hope this helps, Christian Am 07.10.2012 um 18:34 schrieb N20087 : >> Folks >=20 > This is addressed to the hard core engine experts on the forum. I = would love your feedback on this=20 >=20 > I am considering having my io360 crankcase modified so that I can = install piston cooling jets which are standard in 200hp engines. The = reason being, I have had to take aircraft out of service twice, once at = 80 hrs and now at 160 due to lousy break-in and high CHTs. I have done = all the obvious stuff such as plenum, timing, plugs, flowed the fuel = servo to the rich side, baffles etc.. I am running 9:1 eci cerminil = cylinders and they will hit 430 on climb out. They went to 450 twice in = the initial break-in. They will run 370 in 75% cruise and 340 lop >=20 > All this aside, the pistons at 80 hrs (both times) were coated in dark = varnish under the crown and the top of the crowns were heavily = carbonized from oil blowback >=20 > I am just getting tired of it and don't want to pul the engine apart = again anytime soon after this downturn >=20 > So,,,I am wondering if anybody has any experience or data concerning = the cooling benefits of the piston oil nozzles. Ie is it 5 degrees or = 20+ >=20 > Also, I am debating whether to split the crankcase myself or take the = closed case (jugs and every accessory removed) with con rods still = attached to the local shop and have them split the case, do the = machining and reassemble. The shop is very very reputable but of course = the cost will be higher if I get them to do the breakdown and reassembly=20= >=20 > As another cooling remediation measure I was thinking of opening up = the cowl inlets to 4 inches but a little reluctant due to the increased = drag and limited benefit. I added an electric cowl flap by the way and = achieved only a 2 degree CHT improvement in climb at 130 knots Go = figure! >=20 > Again, any feedback on my plan here would appreciated=20 >=20 > Thanks in advance=20 >=20 > Tom=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > -- > For archives and unsub = http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml/List.html >=20