X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2012 18:15:44 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from nm2.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com ([98.139.91.72] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0c1) with ESMTPS id 5797557 for lml@lancaironline.net; Sun, 07 Oct 2012 18:08:03 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=98.139.91.72; envelope-from=paulhershorin@bellsouth.net Received: from [98.139.91.65] by nm2.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Oct 2012 22:07:28 -0000 Received: from [98.139.44.80] by tm5.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Oct 2012 22:07:28 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1017.access.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Oct 2012 22:07:28 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 294294.92231.bm@omp1017.access.mail.sp2.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 68610 invoked by uid 60001); 7 Oct 2012 22:07:27 -0000 DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=bellsouth.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=qKRrvMDgUS7ceBfCXUUc2tD/ebnsg3RXYghhAHpgA7IXQYimTbQAdQ6OIU5RNAUIaMq7nUb1/6emIYoTZFBRN5qaP8W45UlfpHm1DsVJtgwPLX7uia7Ehl+hBIg+yf3/bDjKFC8mwugFaS4DEzqKm15WQcNDTnyXGZ0tI0MzBTY=; X-YMail-OSG: zkemBx0VM1kbk9sL913KAsnsrTBVO6HerVSIBGGwI.VNyFr y8.O.0xNH_7HQ6KrM67FK7vf6RvYH4ZwbZe2x6zDKFd.G0.r5L8WMEsvskzS .dT0dDJYIOzr7kYkjVPLrZLj2tMQmpwpjPTb1ptXgb2cHQp6GZ_CS.7p4DGy ze95ThzqgTmqmkg.upQ_i1Lk3lXVtsTxdrT8beNqMlRFKSVs2qjMahMnQ9LY L8Iwxv_u8T1lzyohPB2fZCWaXbm3ICFiBaP4swfBBqEO8ZaCgjtLVLoeebBa l0VtlvZ188SYd4ntw7Z1Cwklnn5ZWFZBx4rRhIwTZstn2tD18x6.YgaCiG2i G58XJgp3rBV8kIHuG8kL5y8ScH33htWhozAiG36XhmEqqiz9sx7RhYtopIl9 st1LFANuOkQNySi1Eft2nfkEUgF8PpunEPuVCxM3.swpoxLsg2Z.eQPaHB7k 0QbNN3rN9N9Af9J2sR_2B9MCY5vbc Received: from [98.77.96.77] by web181306.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 07 Oct 2012 15:07:27 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/15.0.8 YahooMailWebService/0.8.122.442 X-Original-Message-ID: <1349647647.56098.YahooMailClassic@web181306.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> X-Original-Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2012 15:07:27 -0700 (PDT) From: PAUL HERSHORIN Subject: Re: [LML] Piston oil cooling jets X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Tom--give me a call--I had similar problems when I starte flying and I woul= d be very happy to talk with you how I solved my problems. Cht 450+ egt 1450 + ,oil above red line. Now, all is great and I never see any tem= ps even close to this. CHT 370 max, Egt 1300 or below, oil 210 or belo= w on climb out. =20 Paul Hershorin 561 758-9174 --- On Sun, 10/7/12, N20087 wrote: > From: N20087 > Subject: [LML] Piston oil cooling jets > To: lml@lancaironline.net > Date: Sunday, October 7, 2012, 12:34 PM > > Folks >=20 > This is addressed to the hard core engine experts on the > forum.=A0 I would love your feedback on this=20 >=20 > I am considering having my io360 crankcase modified so that > I can install piston cooling jets which are standard in > 200hp engines.=A0 The reason being, I have had to take > aircraft out of service twice, once at 80 hrs and now at 160 > due to lousy break-in and high CHTs. I have done all the > obvious stuff such as plenum, timing, plugs, flowed the fuel > servo to the rich side, baffles etc.. I am running 9:1 eci > cerminil cylinders and they will hit 430 on climb out.=A0 > They went to 450 twice in the initial break-in. They will > run 370 in 75% cruise and 340 lop >=20 > All this aside, the pistons at 80 hrs (both times) were > coated in dark varnish under the crown and the top of the > crowns were heavily carbonized from oil blowback >=20 > I am just getting tired of it and don't want to pul the > engine apart again anytime soon after this downturn >=20 > So,,,I am wondering if anybody has any experience or data > concerning the cooling benefits of the piston oil > nozzles.=A0 Ie is it 5 degrees or 20+ >=20 > Also, I am debating whether to split the crankcase myself or > take the closed case (jugs and every accessory removed) with > con rods still attached to the local shop and have them > split the case, do the machining and reassemble.=A0 The > shop is very very reputable but of course the cost will be > higher if I get them to do the breakdown and reassembly=20 >=20 > As another cooling remediation measure I was thinking of > opening up the cowl inlets to 4 inches but a little > reluctant due to the increased drag and limited > benefit.=A0 I added an electric cowl flap by the way and > achieved only a 2 degree CHT improvement in climb at 130 > knots Go figure! >=20 > Again, any feedback on my plan here would appreciated=20 >=20 > Thanks in advance=20 >=20 > Tom=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > -- > For archives and unsub http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml/List.ht= ml >