X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2012 08:26:20 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from imr-db02.mx.aol.com ([205.188.91.96] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4.5) with ESMTP id 5579209 for lml@lancaironline.net; Mon, 04 Jun 2012 18:23:24 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=205.188.91.96; envelope-from=rwolf99@aol.com Received: from mtaomg-db06.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-db06.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.204]) by imr-db02.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id q54MMgSw031992 for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 18:22:42 -0400 Received: from core-dqa002a.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-dqa002.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.211.197]) by mtaomg-db06.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 58F35E000089 for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2012 18:22:42 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: lml@lancaironline.net Subject: Pillar Point Optical Fuel Sensors X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI X-MB-Message-Type: User MIME-Version: 1.0 From: rwolf99@aol.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--------MB_8CF10B7B1582368_1CAC_5B128_webmail-d076.sysops.aol.com" X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 36210-STANDARD Received: from 216.55.58.138 by webmail-d076.sysops.aol.com (205.188.181.102) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Mon, 04 Jun 2012 18:22:42 -0400 X-Original-Message-Id: <8CF10B7B14C3C6A-1CAC-156BF@webmail-d076.sysops.aol.com> X-Originating-IP: [216.55.58.138] X-Original-Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2012 18:22:42 -0400 (EDT) x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:450013184:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33cc4fcd35320ba2 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ----------MB_8CF10B7B1582368_1CAC_5B128_webmail-d076.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Personally, I like the Pillar Point optical fuel sensors. So much so that = I even had our guys install them on the prototype Javelin Jet. These are s= imply economical versions of the technology that is in many bizjets today. = However, I cannot speak to their in-service longevity as I am not flying y= et, and the Javelin only flew six times before we retired it. I have them in multiple places in my Lancair 360. They are wired into an a= nnunciator system. 1) Header tank low fuel sensor. I have a capacitance fuel probe in my hea= der tank that displys fuel quantity and also turns the fuel transfer pumps = on and off. However, at a somewhat lower fuel quantity (30 minutes at crui= se power, estimated at 5 gallons) the optical fuel sensor becomes uncovered= and a red LO FUEL warning comes on. This is the "no kidding, land right n= ow" warning. This may happen due to running out of gas, or an unnoticed fa= ilure in my fuel transfer system, or a dead capacitance fuel probe in the h= eader tank. =20 2) Wing tanks empty sensor. These are actually installed in the transfer = line from the Facet fuel pump outlet to the header tank, immediately ajacen= t to the fuel pump outlet. (...then comes a T-fitting with the sensor, and= then comes the flexible fuel line up to the header tank...) A ran a test = using the Facet pump to pump water uphill. When the inlet unported, the Fa= cet pump definitely blew air thru the line so I know the sensor will become= uncovered when the wing is empty. This goes to an amber LEFT WING EMPTY o= r RIGHT WING EMPTY light, alerting me to turn off the transfer pump. Other= wise the fuel system is fully automatic with manual override. Just like my= Cessna 150 -- turn it on and forget about fuel transfer, except my Cessna = didn't have a "you're about to run out of gas, you moron!" warning. (...and= I remember a couple of times when I almost did...) Pillar Point used to sell "modified" T-fittings that their optical sensor s= crewed into. They did this to deal with reflections internal to the fittin= g which spoofed the sensor -- at least that's what they told me then. I do= believe that they sell T-fittings now with the sensor integral to it. Sam= e concept, but they believe it is a superior implementation. The reason I did this -- and I followed this logic elsewhere -- is for the = safety of flight warning sensors (ok, safety of engine operation) to be sep= arate from the normal instrumentation. If my engine monitor craps out, I s= till have the annunciator to tell me that I still have fuel and the oil pre= ssure is non-zero. - Rob Wolf ----------MB_8CF10B7B1582368_1CAC_5B128_webmail-d076.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii"
Personally, I like the Pillar Point optical fuel sensors.  So muc= h so that I even had our guys install them on the prototype Javelin Jet.&nb= sp; These are simply economical versions of the technology that is in many = bizjets today.  However, I cannot speak to their in-service longevity = as I am not flying yet, and the Javelin only flew six times before we retir= ed it.
 
I have them in multiple places in my Lancair 360.  They are wired= into an annunciator system.
 
1)  Header tank low fuel sensor.  I have a capacitance fuel = probe in my header tank that displys fuel quantity and also turns the fuel = transfer pumps on and off.  However, at a somewhat lower fuel quantity= (30 minutes at cruise power, estimated at 5 gallons) the optical fuel sens= or becomes uncovered and a red LO FUEL warning comes on.  This is the = "no kidding, land right now" warning.  This may happen due to running = out of gas, or an unnoticed failure in my fuel transfer system, or a dead c= apacitance fuel probe in the header tank. 
 
2)  Wing tanks empty sensor.  These are actually installed i= n the transfer line from the Facet fuel pump outlet to the header tank, imm= ediately ajacent to the fuel pump outlet.  (...then comes a T-fitting = with the sensor, and then comes the flexible fuel line up to the header tan= k...)  A ran a test using the Facet pump to pump water uphill.  W= hen the inlet unported, the Facet pump definitely blew air thru the line so= I know the sensor will become uncovered when the wing is empty.  This= goes to an amber LEFT WING EMPTY or RIGHT WING EMPTY light, aler= ting me to turn off the transfer pump.  Otherwise the fuel system is f= ully automatic with manual override.  Just like my Cessna 150 -- turn = it on and forget about fuel transfer, except my Cessna didn't have a "you'r= e about to run out of gas, you moron!" warning. (...and I remember a couple= of times when I almost did...)
 
Pillar Point used to sell "modified" T-fittings that their optical sen= sor screwed into.  They did this to deal with reflections internal to = the fitting which spoofed the sensor -- at least that's what they told me t= hen.  I do believe that they sell T-fittings now with the sensor integ= ral to it.  Same concept, but they believe it is a superior implementa= tion.
 
The reason I did this -- and I followed this logic elsewhere -- is for= the safety of flight warning sensors (ok, safety of engine operation)= to be separate from the normal instrumentation.  If my engine monitor= craps out, I still have the annunciator to tell me that I still have fuel = and the oil pressure is non-zero.
 
- Rob Wolf
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