X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 12:01:44 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from mail-alt2.hserv16.homehost.com.br ([177.85.103.23] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4.5) with ESMTPS id 5567710 for lml@lancaironline.net; Wed, 30 May 2012 08:47:57 -0400 Received-SPF: softfail receiver=logan.com; client-ip=177.85.103.23; envelope-from=ppxsn@novellisouza.com.br Received: from [186.253.17.79] (port=60581) by hserv16.homehost.com.br with esmtpa (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1SZiJ0-0005Ah-04 for lml@lancaironline.net; Wed, 30 May 2012 09:47:19 -0300 From: Silvio Novelli Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1278) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_7F538B95-7FF7-4B30-8615-9FAC41528E49" Subject: Re: [LML] Request for Help X-Original-Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 09:47:08 -0300 In-Reply-To: X-Original-To: "Lancair Mailing List" References: X-Original-Message-Id: <0F25FFC1-54D8-4A29-8DD4-355CD1566776@novellisouza.com.br> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1278) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - hserv16.homehost.com.br X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - lancaironline.net X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - novellisouza.com.br --Apple-Mail=_7F538B95-7FF7-4B30-8615-9FAC41528E49 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 My experience is similar to Lorn's. Flaps 20 deg, maximum 25 deg. I = always land full head tank even if I'm alone with no luggage. Flare is = something tricking, needs some power, although you will change AOA and = maintain the trajectory, resulting in a hard landing. I do that when = around 75 kt over strip, depending on weigh, altitude, temperature, = etc.. Final on 80 kt usually. My Lancair now is 82 hours with 99 = landings. Silvio Novelli Lancair 320 PP-XSN +55 (14) 9614-3129 On 29 Jan 2012,w 22, at 12:09 PM, Lorn H Olsen wrote: Jim, My O-320 flies the same way as yours. One thing that you can do to get = more up elevator is to use less flaps. I usually land with 20=B0 to 30=B0 of flaps. Sometimes, with a full = header and only myself flying, I find that I don't have enough elevator = for landing. Raising the flaps by 10=B0 solves the problem. This = knowledge comes from 1,850 hours on the plane and a few hard landings. Lorn > From: Jim Guldi > Date: May 28, 2012 1:17:00 PM EDT >=20 > I own one of the early 235s with an 0235 and small tail. The plane is = definitely sensitive and VERY easily over controlled...I think that is = most of the problem. I also believe people don't tell all ie problems = they have had for fear of others opinion. I think the tail is big = enough. It seems from what I can gather the elevator can run out of = pitch control on landing causing a hard nose landing. My answer is to = not land on a full header tank. I don't really have that much time but I = have solved my understanding/learning curve Hope this is of some = help...jim Guldi CFI =20 -- For archives and unsub = http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml/List.html --Apple-Mail=_7F538B95-7FF7-4B30-8615-9FAC41528E49 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 My = experience is similar to Lorn's. Flaps 20 deg, maximum 25 deg. I always = land full head tank even if I'm alone with no luggage. Flare is = something tricking, needs some power, although you will change AOA and = maintain the trajectory, resulting in a hard landing. I do that when = around 75 kt over strip, depending on weigh, altitude, temperature, = etc.. Final on 80 kt usually. My Lancair now is 82 hours with 99 = landings.

     Silvio = Novelli
 Lancair 320 PP-XSN
+55 (14) = 9614-3129




On 29  Jan 2012,w 22, at 12:09 PM, Lorn H Olsen = wrote:

Jim,

My = O-320 flies the same way as yours. One thing that you can do to get more = up elevator is to use less flaps.

I usually land with 20=B0 to = 30=B0 of flaps. Sometimes, with a full header and only myself flying, I = find that I don't have enough elevator for landing. Raising the flaps by = 10=B0 solves the problem. This knowledge comes from 1,850 hours on the = plane and a few hard landings.

Lorn

From: Jim Guldi <guldi.jim@gmail.com>
Date: May 28, 2012 1:17:00 PM = EDT

I own one of the early 235s with an 0235 and small tail. = The plane is definitely sensitive and VERY easily over controlled...I = think that is most of the problem. I also believe people don't tell all = ie problems they have had for fear of others opinion. I think the tail = is big enough. It seems from what I can gather the elevator can run out = of pitch control on landing causing a hard nose landing. My answer is to = not land on a full header tank. I don't really have that much time but I = have solved my understanding/learning curve Hope this is of some = help...jim Guldi CFI   

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