X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 11:20:06 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from mta11.charter.net ([216.33.127.80] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4.5) with ESMTP id 5565783 for lml@lancaironline.net; Tue, 29 May 2012 11:14:11 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=216.33.127.80; envelope-from=troneill@charter.net Received: from imp10 ([10.20.200.15]) by mta11.charter.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.02 201-2260-151-103-20110920) with ESMTP id <20120529151335.RCWI10966.mta11.charter.net@imp10> for ; Tue, 29 May 2012 11:13:35 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.101] ([75.132.241.174]) by imp10 with smtp.charter.net id FrDa1j00g3mUFT705rDb0n; Tue, 29 May 2012 11:13:35 -0400 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=JYQIUidRAECiNa+jsiaNMIhYElg3H2WoMKCJIGO75f4= c=1 sm=1 a=WQLtYIjAp2sA:10 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=VxlS/kh5Y2KhHY/Xui1ATg==:17 a=3oc9M9_CAAAA:8 a=Ia-xEzejAAAA:8 a=Uw1EY9MQXcTH-CnQlrgA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=VQWZxD7wvt0A:10 a=CVU0O5Kb7MsA:10 a=U8Ie8EnqySEA:10 a=Whv8HLVs5OMA:10 a=VxlS/kh5Y2KhHY/Xui1ATg==:117 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Experimental Aircraft Accidents From: Terrence O'Neill In-Reply-To: X-Original-Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 10:13:34 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Original-Message-Id: <37617C18-1A31-4CF9-955F-28CB9FAB175F@charter.net> References: X-Original-To: "Lancair Mailing List" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Jeff, where is it? Last time I looked, most of the fatals were caused by unintentional = stalls. Engine failures are not the cause. It's stalling the wing -- because = that morphs a pilot into a helpless passenger... for too long in some = Lancairs. Not good if too low. The type AOAs most pilots favor do not, IMHO, give a pilot instantaneous = eye-to-hand info of his wing's stall angle to the relative wind... when = there exists an AOA indicator. They read out 'somewhere on the panel', = and often just as little lights, which the mind must comprehend and = convert. =20 In my opinion what's needed is to look at your wing and there also SEE = the relative wind -- the vane -- and a mark indicating the stall angle. How about some forum comments on this? Terrence On May 28, 2012, at 12:17 PM, vtailjeff@aol.com wrote: > Please read the rest of the report. The fatal experimental accident = rate is two to four times as great as the comparison GA certified = aircraft fatal rate.=20 >=20 > Jeff >=20 > Sent from my iPad >=20 > On May 26, 2012, at 2:34 PM, Lorn H Olsen wrote: >=20 >> 224,000 / 33,000 =3D 15% >>=20 >> 15% of the fleet, 20% of the accidents. Not bad, not bad at all. >>=20 >>=20 >> On May 25, 2012, at 6:00 AM, Lancair Mailing List wrote: >>=20 >>> Among 224,000 general-aviation aircraft across the USA, 33,000 are = considered experimental, meaning they were built from a kit or from a = unique design. The aircraft account for 20% of fatal crashes of general = aviation, despite representing a small portion of the fleet. >>=20 >>=20 >> -- >> Lorn H. 'Feathers' Olsen, MAA, ASMEL, ASES, Comm, Inst >> DynaComm, Corp., 248-345-0500, mailto:lorn@dynacomm.us >> LNC2, FB90/92, O-320-D1F, 1,800 hrs, N31161, Y47, SE Michigan >>=20 >>=20 >> -- >> For archives and unsub = http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml/List.html >=20 > -- > For archives and unsub = http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml/List.html