X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 11:09:08 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from nm5.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com ([98.139.44.132] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4.5) with SMTP id 5564406 for lml@lancaironline.net; Mon, 28 May 2012 17:03:32 -0400 Received-SPF: neutral receiver=logan.com; client-ip=98.139.44.132; envelope-from=ralphlove@stanfordalumni.org Received: from [98.139.44.96] by nm5.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 May 2012 21:02:57 -0000 Received: from [98.139.44.72] by tm1.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 May 2012 21:02:57 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1009.access.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 May 2012 21:02:57 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 95072.19451.bm@omp1009.access.mail.sp2.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 91045 invoked from network); 28 May 2012 21:02:56 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: v7Hvy_gVM1k.c4zoMAMbF4m3lxYhgf8nd5qZJJ2prLtr_f_ j.CG9KBw7I7W1eYjtQfjq5cHbGvZ86Y4CTCb6.8jbFYbFtYaPPPc4iVtmRzO ZK3VRRKpbcK2dntcwjjMe11o7RMBdbTNmvcbszv_l8wXXfv28aTXj2jzWkmb TrPW.sgtpKt.jWWhKGfXooqrffTgbYfQTTDvr7_Q4wVTzz3n5.zLb83ZhP9m J7sS00OvGu83jP2KV3IeLCXi1WFgAKzZIEo0N5n7BaClbnEuiZKIBMxbz5oI Io3mpReENjKc9buW3ZzMlkqfE3OeFUFM7Vj2AUqwFmmcUssKdKT.T1_M4R6I wo7bmPOHF7hTPnB727qFMFm0HAGsFfCiCYC6f2nX9i5CjVKnsGNC2zqcf.1E g24ilbMLeYAjT7Lr_TEHr1hxTHOmkLSvq1IyQnrauiMaeDcuwb0cpTaQidR_ icOw- X-Yahoo-SMTP: O0s9NnaswBCimploNHufwcJQi58B5NjMy.C2WAjfZjgmjJOd Received: from [10.0.0.65] (ralphlove@67.59.65.134 with plain) by smtp106.sbc.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 28 May 2012 14:02:56 -0700 PDT Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Legacy Starter/Starter Adapter References: From: Ralph Love Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-56A615CA-3DC1-4B74-95F8-3147D4DA4898 In-Reply-To: X-Original-Message-Id: <68DC7EC0-EDB7-47B1-9B2F-59A717E6833E@stanfordalumni.org> X-Original-Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 12:31:03 -0700 X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) X-Mailer: iPad Mail (9B206) --Apple-Mail-56A615CA-3DC1-4B74-95F8-3147D4DA4898 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I too had exactly the same problem at about the same time on my engine and h= ad to have the starter adapter repaired. I think I also replaced the starter= . I can look back in my emails if you are interested Ralph The "Pink" Legacy N122PT On May 28, 2012, at 10:17 AM, Ron Laughlin wrote: > Hi john, > I believe it is your starter adaptor that is slipping. Mine produced the s= ame symptoms when it failed.=20 >=20 > I think the Iskra starter damaged your starter adaptor and then the extra t= orque provided by the Skytec starter finished the job. This has happened to e= nough Cirrus owners that many shops now recommend a preemptive IRAN on the s= tarter adaptor when changing from an Iskra to one of the newer starters. >=20 > Ron >=20 > On May 26, 2012, at 2:34 PM, jpkleber@charter.net wrote: >=20 >> Greetings, >>=20 >> I have been flying my Legacy for one year now and have accumulated 80 hou= rs flight time. My Legacy is equipped with a Continental IO-550-N engine. >>=20 >> At hour 70, I removed the ISKRA starter as a preemptive measure to preser= ve the starter adapter. I replaced it with a SkyTec starter. All has been w= ell for the next 10 hours. However, now at 80 hours, it appears I am gettin= g starter slippage. While starting the engine, I'll get a couple blades of r= otation --- and then the prop will stop turning (at a compression stroke), b= ut it sounds as if the starter motor is continuing to turn with full power. = Stop cranking. Then resume, I'll get a few more blades of rotation, and th= en the prop will stop turning, while the starter motor continues with full p= ower.=20 >>=20 >> Is this what a failed starter adapter sounds like? Request advice on how= to proceed from other Legacy, ES, and IV, (equipped with Continental IO-550= -N) owner/builders who have had similar experience and successfully resolved= the issue. >>=20 >> Thank you, >> John --Apple-Mail-56A615CA-3DC1-4B74-95F8-3147D4DA4898 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
I too had exactly the same= problem at about the same time on my engine and had to have the starter ada= pter repaired. I think I also replaced the starter.  I can look back in= my emails if you are interested

Ralph
Th= e "Pink"
Legacy N122PT

On May 28, 2012, at 10:17 AM,= Ron Laughlin <ronlaughlin@gmail= .com> wrote:


Hi john,
I believe it is your starter adaptor tha= t is slipping. Mine produced the same symptoms when it failed. 

I think the Iskra starter damaged your starter adaptor and= then the extra torque provided by the Skytec starter finished the job. This= has happened to enough Cirrus owners that many shops now recommend a preemp= tive IRAN on the starter adaptor when changing from an Iskra to one of the n= ewer starters.

Ron

On May 26, 2012, at 2:34 PM, jpkleber@charter.net wrote:

Gre= etings,

I hav= e been flying my Legacy for one year now and have accumulated 80 hours fligh= t time.  My Legacy is equipped with a Continental IO-550-N engine.

At hour 70, I rem= oved the ISKRA starter as a preemptive measure to preserve the starter adapt= er.  I replaced it with a SkyTec starter.  All has been well for t= he next 10 hours.  However, now at 80 hours, it appears I am getting st= arter slippage.  While starting the engine, I'll get a couple blades of= rotation  --- and then the prop will stop turning (at a compression st= roke), but it sounds as if the starter motor is continuing to turn with full= power.  Stop cranking.  Then resume, I'll get a few more blades o= f rotation, and then the prop will stop turning, while the starter motor con= tinues with full power. 

Is this what a failed starter adapter sounds like?  Re= quest advice on how to proceed from other Legacy, ES, and IV, (equipped with= Continental IO-550-N) owner/builders who have had similar experience and su= ccessfully resolved the issue.

Thank you,
John
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