X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 11:09:08 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from imr-mb01.mx.aol.com ([64.12.207.164] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4.5) with ESMTP id 5564535 for lml@lancaironline.net; Mon, 28 May 2012 19:54:14 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=64.12.207.164; envelope-from=vtailjeff@aol.com Received: from mtaomg-db03.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-db03.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.201]) by imr-mb01.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id q4SNrYtt017785 for ; Mon, 28 May 2012 19:53:34 -0400 Received: from core-mnc002a.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mnc002.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.106.197]) by mtaomg-db03.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 13F02E00008B for ; Mon, 28 May 2012 19:53:34 -0400 (EDT) References: X-Original-To: lml@lancaironline.net Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Legacy Starter/Starter Adapter In-Reply-To: X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: vtailjeff@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--------MB_8CF0B4439C54976_235C_2CAEA_webmail-stg-d14.sysops.aol.com" X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 36210-STANDARD Received: from 24.107.65.42 by webmail-stg-d14.sysops.aol.com (205.188.185.232) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Mon, 28 May 2012 19:53:33 -0400 X-Original-Message-Id: <8CF0B4439B96287-235C-A376@webmail-stg-d14.sysops.aol.com> X-Originating-IP: [24.107.65.42] X-Original-Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 19:53:33 -0400 (EDT) x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:434680032:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33c94fc40ffe0904 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ----------MB_8CF0B4439C54976_235C_2CAEA_webmail-stg-d14.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" a damaged starter adapter can puke out all of the engine oil in short order= . be careful out there! -----Original Message----- From: Ron Laughlin To: lml Sent: Mon, May 28, 2012 12:17 pm Subject: [LML] Re: Legacy Starter/Starter Adapter Hi john, I believe it is your starter adaptor that is slipping. Mine produced the sa= me symptoms when it failed.=20 I think the Iskra starter damaged your starter adaptor and then the extra t= orque provided by the Skytec starter finished the job. This has happened to= enough Cirrus owners that many shops now recommend a preemptive IRAN on th= e starter adaptor when changing from an Iskra to one of the newer starters. Ron On May 26, 2012, at 2:34 PM, jpkleber@charter.net wrote: Greetings, I have been flying my Legacy for one year now and have accumulated 80 hours= flight time. My Legacy is equipped with a Continental IO-550-N engine. At hour 70, I removed the ISKRA starter as a preemptive measure to preserve= the starter adapter. I replaced it with a SkyTec starter. All has been w= ell for the next 10 hours. However, now at 80 hours, it appears I am getti= ng starter slippage. While starting the engine, I'll get a couple blades o= f rotation --- and then the prop will stop turning (at a compression strok= e), but it sounds as if the starter motor is continuing to turn with full p= ower. Stop cranking. Then resume, I'll get a few more blades of rotation,= and then the prop will stop turning, while the starter motor continues wit= h full power. =20 Is this what a failed starter adapter sounds like? Request advice on how t= o proceed from other Legacy, ES, and IV, (equipped with Continental IO-550-= N) owner/builders who have had similar experience and successfully resolved= the issue. Thank you, John ----------MB_8CF0B4439C54976_235C_2CAEA_webmail-stg-d14.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" a damaged starter adapter can puke out all of the engine o= il in short order. be careful out there!


= -----Original Message-----
From: Ron Laughlin <ronlaughlin@gmail.com>
To: lml <lml@lancaironline.net>
Sent: Mon, May 28, 2012 12:17 pm
Subject: [LML] Re: Legacy Starter/Starter Adapter

Hi john,
I believe it is your starter adaptor that is slipping. Mine produced t= he same symptoms when it failed. 

I think the Iskra starter damaged your starter adaptor and then the ex= tra torque provided by the Skytec starter finished the job. This has happen= ed to enough Cirrus owners that many shops now recommend a preemptive IRAN = on the starter adaptor when changing from an Iskra to one of the newer star= ters.

Ron

On May 26, 2012, at 2:34 PM, jpkleb= er@charter.net wrote:

Greetings,<= /FONT>
I have been= flying my Legacy for one year now and have accumulated 80 hours flight tim= e.  My Legacy is equipped with a Continental IO-550-N engine.
At hour 70,= I removed the ISKRA starter as a preemptive measure to preserve the starte= r adapter.  I replaced it with a SkyTec starter.  All has been we= ll for the next 10 hours.  However, now at 80 hours, it appears I am g= etting starter slippage.  While starting the engine, I'll get a couple= blades of rotation  --- and then the prop will stop turning (at a com= pression stroke), but it sounds as if the starter motor is continuing to tu= rn with full power.  Stop cranking.  Then resume, I'll get a few = more blades of rotation, and then the prop will stop turning, while the sta= rter motor continues with full power. 

Is this wha= t a failed starter adapter sounds like?  Request advice on how to proc= eed from other Legacy, ES, and IV, (equipped with Continental IO-550-N) own= er/builders who have had similar experience and successfully resolved the i= ssue.
Thank you,<= /FONT>
John=
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