X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Thu, 24 May 2012 17:01:10 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from imr-ma06.mx.aol.com ([64.12.78.142] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4.5) with ESMTP id 5558514 for lml@lancaironline.net; Thu, 24 May 2012 16:32:37 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=64.12.78.142; envelope-from=Sky2high@aol.com Received: from mtaomg-mb01.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mb01.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.72]) by imr-ma06.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id q4OKVwWv015397 for ; Thu, 24 May 2012 16:31:58 -0400 Received: from core-mte005b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mte005.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.236.81]) by mtaomg-mb01.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id B07E3E00008F for ; Thu, 24 May 2012 16:31:58 -0400 (EDT) From: Sky2high@aol.com X-Original-Message-ID: X-Original-Date: Thu, 24 May 2012 16:31:58 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Instrument Panel comments/advice requested X-Original-To: lml@lancaironline.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_c9bd.4337f264.3ceff4be_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 9.6 sub 168 X-Originating-IP: [67.175.156.123] x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:494489696:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d29484fbe9abe541b --part1_c9bd.4337f264.3ceff4be_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Doug, Why I have two panel mounted comms: Early in my instrument rating training (in a twin) and on my fifth approach into a Class C airport, I became mentally overloaded. That means that the brain didn't just slow down, it stopped! The overload came from getting plates, remembering where, who and what to call in, tuning radios to different frequencies, etc. etc. The lesson I learned was to get all simple workload items done as early as possible to avoid having to do a bunch of stuff with not enough time. Two comms make any C/D airport approach, in VFR or IFR, a piece of cake. At least 20 miles out, I will have tuned ATIS, Approach control (if any), tower and ground into the two radios (active and tuning displays). A frequency switch is just a single pushbutton away or comm switch. Oh, and one radio is a backup for the other should there be a failure. Scott Krueger PS Fancy avionics are fine if you can remember how to work them when you need to....... Practice, Practice, Practice. In a message dated 5/13/2012 5:51:46 P.M. Central Daylight Time, lancairav8r@gmail.com writes: My apologies to everyone for forgetting to include what I am building in my original message. My project is a Lancair 360 with a custom engine from Aero Sport power, 4 into one custom exhaust, forward hinge canopy, outback gear. The MVP-50P I mentioned was purchased a few years ago and I think it's a great product. If I didn't already have it I'd likely do a combined PFD and EMS but as it stands now my MVP be a stand alone EMS. Only downside is the extra real estate used on the panel but even with thew small 360 panel I don't think it will be overcrowded. I have received a lot of great advice both privately and through the list and I thank you all very much. I am now comparing and analyzing the Advanced Flight Systems EFIS and the GRT product. Though my IFR flying will be limited I absolutely agree it's either an IFR bird or it's not. Mine will be IFR capable with appropriate backups so I definitely want reliable, stable and proven technology. Thanks for all the great input. I am envious of all you flyers out there and hope to be joining your ranks someday soon!! Doug Doug Waddingham Centennial, CO N521DW --part1_c9bd.4337f264.3ceff4be_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Doug,
 
Why I have two panel mounted comms:
 
Early in my instrument rating training (in a twin) and on my fift= h=20 approach into a Class C airport, I became mentally overloaded.  T= hat=20 means that the brain didn't just slow down, it stopped!  The overload = came=20 from getting plates, remembering where, who and what to call in, tunin= g=20 radios to different frequencies, etc. etc.  The lesson I learned was t= o get=20 all simple workload items done as early as possible to avoid having to= do a=20 bunch of stuff with not enough time.
 
Two comms make any C/D airport approach, in VFR or IFR, a pi= ece=20 of cake.  At least 20 miles out, I will have tuned ATIS, Approach cont= rol=20 (if any), tower and ground into the two radios (active and tuning=20 displays).  A frequency switch is just a single pushbutton away or com= m=20 switch.  Oh, and one radio is a backup for the other should there= be a=20 failure.
 
Scott Krueger
 
PS Fancy avionics are fine if you can remember how to work them when y= ou=20 need to....... Practice, Practice, Practice.
 
In a message dated 5/13/2012 5:51:46 P.M. Central Daylight Time,=20 lancairav8r@gmail.com writes:
= My=20 apologies to everyone for forgetting to include what I am building in my= =20 original message. My project is a Lancair 360 with a custom engine from A= ero=20 Sport power, 4 into one custom exhaust, forward hinge canopy, outback gea= r.=20 The MVP-50P I mentioned was purchased a few years ago and I think it's a = great=20 product. If I didn't already have it I'd likely do a combined PFD and EMS= but=20 as it stands now my MVP be a stand alone EMS. Only downside is the extra = real=20 estate used on the panel but even with thew small 360 panel I don't think= it=20 will be overcrowded.

I have received a lot of great advice both=20 privately and through the list and I thank you all very much. I am now=20 comparing and analyzing the Advanced Flight Systems EFIS and the GRT prod= uct.=20 Though my IFR flying will be limited I absolutely agree it's either an IF= R=20 bird or it's not. Mine will be IFR capable with appropriate backups so I= =20 definitely want reliable, stable and proven technology.

Thanks for= all=20 the great input. I am envious of all you flyers out there and hope to be= =20 joining your ranks someday soon!!

Doug

Doug=20 Waddingham
Centennial,=20 CO
N521DW
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