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Subject: Necessity of A/C in IV-P? IV-P still beats EA50
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I tried flying without AC in the summer in Houston. You can dump the door s=
eal and get some relief above say 6000 feet, but I wouldn't do it with pass=
engers, ears etc. I also tried hot wx army vests with cooling. Weird feelin=
g too cold over your chest and your head's too hot.... The desert cooler wo=
rked pretty good but iced up the windows... cool but IMC
=A0After about 3 years of this, we installed AC.
=A0We just made a deal on an early "vintage" Eclipse. We are using it in an=
 Aero Engineering course at Rice U. RVSM pending and Engine AD restrict us =
to FL280 and I get 203 KEAS at 530 pph ~80gph
IV-P 205 KIAS at FL240 and 75% 25 gph, So far Eclipse Air Conditioning is n=
ot very good- same problem as Lancair with heat loading of cabin with bleed=
 air.
=A0We're considering a West coast trip next week from Houston via Colorado/=
Wyoming to COE, Idaho, then SEA, RDM Oregon, SJC/MRY CA, and back to TX. If=
 you are headed along such a route and want to share a VLJ, collect some Pe=
rformance data, and stick time, for some gas money, give me a holler.
Bill Miller,=20
USN-TPS IP CFI ATP
IV-P 440 hrs, IV-p 55 hrs, EA50 20 hrs (+100hrs pre-Ch 11)

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<table cellspacing=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"0" border=3D"0" ><tr><td valign=3D"=
top" style=3D"font: inherit;">I tried flying without AC in the summer in Ho=
uston. You can dump the door seal and get some relief above say 6000 feet, =
but I wouldn't do it with passengers, ears etc. I also tried hot wx army ve=
sts with cooling. Weird feeling too cold over your chest and your head's to=
o hot.... The desert cooler worked pretty good but iced up the windows... c=
ool but IMC<br>&nbsp;After about 3 years of this, we installed AC.<br>&nbsp=
;We just made a deal on an early "vintage" Eclipse. We are using it in an A=
ero Engineering course at Rice U. RVSM pending and Engine AD restrict us to=
 FL280 and I get 203 KEAS at 530 pph ~80gph<br>IV-P 205 KIAS at FL240 and 7=
5% 25 gph, So far Eclipse Air Conditioning is not very good- same problem a=
s Lancair with heat loading of cabin with bleed air.<br>&nbsp;We're conside=
ring a West coast trip next week from Houston via Colorado/Wyoming to COE,
 Idaho, then SEA, RDM Oregon, SJC/MRY CA, and back to TX. If you are headed=
 along such a route and want to share a VLJ, collect some Performance data,=
 and stick time, for some gas money, give me a holler.<br>Bill Miller, <br>=
USN-TPS IP CFI ATP<br>IV-P 440 hrs, IV-p 55 hrs, EA50 20 hrs (+100hrs pre-C=
h 11)<br></td></tr></table>
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