X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2012 12:05:17 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from mail-yw0-f52.google.com ([209.85.213.52] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4.4) with ESMTPS id 5501490 for lml@lancaironline.net; Mon, 23 Apr 2012 05:11:08 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.213.52; envelope-from=mehapgood@gmail.com Received: by yhpp61 with SMTP id p61so5864057yhp.25 for ; Mon, 23 Apr 2012 02:10:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.236.103.99 with SMTP id e63mr13836841yhg.116.1335172231733; Mon, 23 Apr 2012 02:10:31 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from [10.32.2.130] (mobile-166-147-108-089.mycingular.net. [166.147.108.89]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id q44sm68820695yhg.3.2012.04.23.02.10.27 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 23 Apr 2012 02:10:29 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [LML] Re: ensure your transponder works References: From: Matt Hapgood Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2E7D8E7A-3EA9-4ED1-9D4C-A2B32AFCE9CA X-Mailer: iPad Mail (9B176) In-Reply-To: X-Original-Message-Id: X-Original-Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2012 05:10:27 -0400 X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List , "alcornl@me.com" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) --Apple-Mail-2E7D8E7A-3EA9-4ED1-9D4C-A2B32AFCE9CA Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Thanks Luke, this shines some light on my situation.=20 Matt On Apr 23, 2012, at 12:53 AM, Luke Alcorn wrote: > Since the Northwest overflight of MSP a couple of years ago, the FAA is ho= t and heavy on NORDO's, i.e. lost comms. They make us hunt down aircraft li= ke crazy. Since Jan, 2012, the FAA has implemented a new quality control sy= stem and before a nordo was handled in each atc facility. Now we just repor= t the aircraft nordo and a report is filed as to how long they were out of c= omms. Those reports for straight to the regional quality assurance office a= nd they determine whether or not to file a pilot deviation. The new standar= d is 20 minutes. If it is longer than 20 minutes, the regional QA sends the= pilot deviation report to FSDO. Not much we can do about it anymore, other= than tell everyone, make sure your talking to atc every 20 minutes. > =20 > Luke Alcorn > NATCA ZJX Safety Rep --Apple-Mail-2E7D8E7A-3EA9-4ED1-9D4C-A2B32AFCE9CA Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8

Thanks Luke, this shines some light on my situation.

Matt

On Apr 23, 2012, at 12:53 AM, Luke Alcorn <alcornl@me.com> wrote:

Since the Northwest overflight of MSP a couple of years ago, the FAA is hot and heavy on NORDO's, i.e. lost comms. They make us hunt down aircraft like crazy. Since Jan, 2012, the FAA has implemented a new quality control system and before a nordo was handled in each atc facility. Now we just report the aircraft nordo and a report is filed as to how long they were out of comms. Those reports for straight to the regional quality assurance office and they determine whether or not to file a pilot deviation. The new standard is 20 minutes. If it is longer than 20 minutes, the regional QA sends the pilot deviation report to FSDO. Not much we can do about it anymore, other than tell everyone, make sure your talking to atc every 20 minutes.

Luke Alcorn
NATCA ZJX Safety Rep

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