X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2012 08:18:15 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from elasmtp-dupuy.atl.sa.earthlink.net ([209.86.89.62] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4.3) with ESMTP id 5351582 for lml@lancaironline.net; Sun, 15 Jan 2012 23:11:28 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.86.89.62; envelope-from=colyncase@earthlink.net DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=nLxfAW6wI6AZegRXlNBxlo/kNcFtvAQMb1h5kl7kd1CeOY2fF5WSOtJTuscZgSK/; h=Received:From:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Subject:Date:In-Reply-To:To:References:Message-Id:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [72.73.82.72] (helo=[192.168.1.24]) by elasmtp-dupuy.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1RmduG-00063l-5R for lml@lancaironline.net; Sun, 15 Jan 2012 23:10:52 -0500 From: Colyn Case Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-97-487500356 Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Exhaust system X-Original-Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2012 23:10:51 -0500 In-Reply-To: X-Original-To: "Lancair Mailing List" References: X-Original-Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) X-ELNK-Trace: 63d5d3452847f8b1d6dd28457998182d7e972de0d01da940df2b1ccf67722f921c3dddf7ed100880350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 72.73.82.72 --Apple-Mail-97-487500356 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 re: the Odyssey batteries. Read the charging instructions carefully and = make sure your charger conforms. One of mine got fried using a = standard auto-charger. IMO although they have wonderful shelf life = compared to aviation batteries, they do seem to be susceptible to over = charging. Colyn On Jan 15, 2012, at 10:39 AM, Lorn H Olsen wrote: > From: "Ed Gray" > Date: January 13, 2012 6:26:16 AM EST >=20 > Here=92s a question for Chris, Paul, and others with knowledge of L2 = exhaust. My 360 with Superior IO 360 is ready for engine start up. The = exhaust is a 4 into 1 built by Sonic Headers in Princeton, Mn. It is = beautiful work and ceramic coated. Sonic provided me with a clamp to = fit over the large pipe (collector exit). This will need to be fastened = to the underside of the fuse in some manner, but I question whether it = is necessary. The collector is bolted to two of the headers with = stainless dogbones and 3/16 bolts. The headers are of course very solid = on the block. The additional clamp would need to be rubber mounted to = allow engine movement. I see no way the collector or any part of it can = ever depart the plane. Is this clamp necessary? I have been flying my O-320 with standard factory exhaust for over 1,800 = hours without a clamp and without any problems. I do have the 2 exhausts = strapped together with a stainless hose clamp over exhaust wrap. See = post on 01/11/12 for a photo. > I just have completed the install of a 2 screen Dynon Skyview system = with ap and Dynon txpd with traffic, Garmin SL30 radio to give ILS = presentation on the Dynon screen. I have no steam gage backups. With = dual screens, backup batteries and dual ADHRS I feel that I have enough = redundancy. Does anyone have input or comment? This plane may be one = of the first with no round gauges anywhere. I like backup steam. > Next issue, my battery is an Odyssy 650 (650 cranking amps) which has = been sitting around for 5 years. It does not turn the crank fast enough = for starting. Is 650 amps enuf for a 360 (8.5 compression). I probably = need a new battery but don=92t want to buy one undersized. I have been using an Odyssey PC925 for over 7 years and it still starts = the plane better than the new Gill and/or Concords that I had in the = past. I have mistakenly left my master on for about 7 days. The battery = was able to recover. I believe that Bill Harrelson uses a set of either = PC625's or PC680's, one as main and one as a backup. Bill has enough for = his O-320. (Bill pop-in). I originally purchased the battery from B&C, model # BC100-1. The price = from B&C is still good at $150.00. > I really appreciate this website-very informative! I will post pics = when the plane is together. Look for N360 ZG at Oshkosh! > =20 > Ed Gray, Dallas -- Lorn H. 'Feathers' Olsen, MAA, ASMEL, ASES, Comm, Inst DynaComm, Corp., 248-345-0500, mailto:lorn@dynacomm.us LNC2, FB90/92, O-320-D1F, 1,800 hrs, N31161, Y47, SE Michigan --Apple-Mail-97-487500356 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 re: = the Odyssey batteries.  Read the charging instructions carefully = and make sure your charger conforms.   One of mine got fried using = a standard auto-charger.     IMO although they have wonderful = shelf life compared to aviation batteries, they do seem to be = susceptible to over = charging.

Colyn

On Jan 15, = 2012, at 10:39 AM, Lorn H Olsen wrote:

From: "Ed Gray" <egraylaw@swbell.net>
Date:&n= bsp;January 13, 2012 6:26:16 AM EST

Here=92s a question for = Chris, Paul, and others with knowledge of L2 exhaust.  My 360 = with Superior IO 360 is ready for engine start up.  The exhaust is = a 4 into 1 built by Sonic Headers in Princeton, Mn.  It = is beautiful work and ceramic coated.  Sonic provided me with = a clamp to fit over the large pipe (collector exit).  This = will need to be fastened to the underside of the fuse in some = manner, but I question whether it is necessary.  The collector is = bolted to two of the headers with stainless dogbones and 3/16 = bolts.  The headers are of course very solid on the block. =  The additional clamp would need to be rubber mounted to allow = engine movement.  I see no way the collector or any part of it = can ever depart the plane.  Is this clamp = necessary?

I have been flying my = O-320 with standard factory exhaust for over 1,800 hours without a clamp = and without any problems. I do have the 2 exhausts strapped together = with a stainless hose clamp over exhaust wrap. See post on 01/11/12 for = a photo.

I just have completed the = install of a 2 screen Dynon Skyview system with ap and Dynon txpd = with traffic, Garmin SL30 radio to give ILS presentation on the = Dynon screen.  I have no steam gage backups.  With dual = screens, backup batteries and dual ADHRS I feel that I have enough = redundancy.  Does anyone have input or comment?  This = plane may be one of the first with no round gauges = anywhere.

I like backup = steam.

Next issue, my battery is an = Odyssy 650 (650 cranking amps) which has been sitting around for 5 = years.  It does not turn the crank fast enough for = starting.  Is 650 amps enuf for a 360 (8.5 compression). =  I probably need a new battery but don=92t want to buy one = undersized.

I have been using = an Odyssey=  PC925 = for over 7 years and it still starts the plane better than the new Gill = and/or Concords that I had in the past. I have mistakenly left my master = on for about 7 days. The battery was able to recover. I believe that = Bill Harrelson uses a set of either PC625's&nbs= p;or PC680's, = one as main and one as a backup. Bill has enough for his O-320. (Bill = pop-in).

I originally purchased the battery = from B&C, model # = BC100-1. The price from B&C is still good at = $150.00.

I really = appreciate this website-very informative!  I will post pics when = the plane is together.  Look for N360 ZG = at Oshkosh!
 
Ed Gray, Dallas

--
Lorn H. 'Feathers' Olsen, MAA, = ASMEL, ASES, Comm, Inst
DynaComm, Corp., 248-345-0500, mailto:lorn@dynacomm.us
LNC2, = FB90/92, O-320-D1F, 1,800 hrs, N31161, Y47, SE = Michigan


= --Apple-Mail-97-487500356--