Mailing List lml@lancaironline.net Message #60704
From: Frederick Moreno <frederickmoreno@bigpond.com>
Sender: <marv@lancaironline.net>
Subject: Re: Ceramic exhaust coatings - careful y'all
Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2012 10:39:02 -0500
To: <lml@lancaironline.net>
Insulation wrapped on exhaust pipes and coatings that reduce the surface thermal emissivity both raise exhaust pipe temperature. 
 
So what? 
 
At these temperatures, the strength of the  321 stainless steel generally used in exhaust pipes is dropping like a rock - small temperature increases result in big strength decreases - and creep resistance drops even faster.
 
Oxidation is also increasing dramatically with temperature. 
 
In short, the exhaust pipes will fail much,  much sooner due to cracking or wall thinning.  If you are driving a turbo, you run a double risk because of the high pressures inside the exhaust pipes upstream of the turbo that stress tubing walls more and create blow torches when cracks form. 
 
In short, don't do it unless you pledge to inspect the pipes more often, like every time the cowl is off, and unwrap the pipes for a very careful inspection at EVERY annual. 
 
Data below.  Out of curiosity I made an Excel plot, attached.  It makes the point even better than the table below.   Creep strength virtually zero at 800C = 1432F
 
Sorry 'bout that.
 
Fred Moreno
 

2. Properties at Elevated Temperatures
Short Time Elevated Temperature Tensile Strength

Temperature, oC 600 650 700 750 800 850
Tensile Strength, MPa 390 329 280 230 190 140

Creep data
Stress to develop a creep rate of 1% in the indicated time at the indicated temperature.

Time Temperature oC 550 600 650 700 800
10 000 h Stress MPa 180 100 70 40 10
100 000 h Stress MPa 120 80 50 25 5

Creep Rupture Stress

Time Temperature oC 500 600 650 700 800
1 000 h Stress MPa 270 180 140 70 30
10 000 h Stress MPa 240 130 90 50 10
100 000 h Stress MPa 200 90 50 15 5
 
 
Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Ceramic exhaust coatings
 
One other thought, I have heard both sides of this argument before as well. I also heard it is nearly impossible to weld / repair pipes with this coating. I found a solution that solved the problem cheaply without making the pipes more difficult to weld. I wrapped my entire exhaust system with hot rod exhaust wrap. I bought it at the local auto parts store in the 1" width. Spruce sells it as well. I tested the stuff with a torch in the hangar on my hand and was amazed how well it insulates. I have 2 layers in some very hot places on the pipes. In addition to reducing the inner cowl temps, It also tames the vibration of the pipes and reduces noise. 
Cheap, relatively light and effective...
Fwiw.

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