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Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Ceramic exhaust coatings
From: ED MARTIN <edmartintx@gmail.com>
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      According to their website http://engineeredapps.com/headers.shtml   The
coatings are only good to 1200F which should mean, it will peal  after
repeated exposure to 1300F EGT (or greater).   SEE data:    film thickness 1-3
mils curing temp 650 degrees F for 1 hr operating temp. <1200 degrees F
finish polished silver

*Other Specifications**:* MIL-C-81751B


On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 12:28 PM, <N66mg@aol.com> wrote:

> **
> I had my done by a Engineered Applied Appications, Phone# 323-585-2894 in
> Vernon, CA and they looked like polished aluminum, cool...Had a very good
> service and no problem what so ever, maybe I was just lucky...They do a lot
> of coating for race cars too...I was recommended by people who built Shelly
> Cobras Race cars in Torrance, right next to the airport...No problems with
> size or anything at all, that's my 2 cents
> Michael Giardino
> 66mg  Glasair flying
> n7sz L-IV 96%
>
>  In a message dated 1/11/2012 7:14:09 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,
> skipslater@verizon.net writes:
>
> I had the same experience as Colyn when I had my pipes coated on my ES.  I
> sent my exhaust to Jet Hot (which is primarily for cars) and when I got it
> back, some joints were a little loose but others wouldn't fit at all.  I
> don't know how they did it, but some of the joints were visibly out of
> round.  I had to take them to another shop to try to get them bent back
> into shape, which resulted in slightly leaky joints.  Eventually, I had to
> have a new exhaust made.  I took the new pipes to Olympic Coatings in
> Escondido and had their gray high temp coating put on.  Several years and a
> few hundred hours later, it's still going strong.  I had both the inside
> and outside of the pipes done, however it's important to remember NOT to
> coat the pipe running through the heat muff.  Doing so will greatly reduce
> the heat transfer.
>    Skip Slater
>    N540ES
>
>

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=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 According to their website <a href=3D"http://engineeredapps=
.com/headers.shtml">http://engineeredapps.com/headers.shtml</a>=A0=A0=A0The=
 coatings are only good to 1200F which should mean, it will peal=A0 after r=
epeated exposure to 1300F EGT (or greater).=A0=A0 SEE data:=A0=A0=20
<table border=3D"0" cellspacing=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"0" width=3D"289">
<tbody>
<tr>
<td>film thickness</td>
<td>1-3 mils</td></tr>
<tr>
<td>curing temp</td>
<td>650 degrees F for 1 hr</td></tr>
<tr>
<td>operating temp.</td>
<td>&lt;1200 degrees F</td></tr>
<tr>
<td>finish</td>
<td>polished silver</td></tr></tbody></table>
<p><i><font color=3D"#666666">Other Specifications</font></i><font color=3D=
"#666666"><i>:</i> MIL-C-81751B</font></p><br><br>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 12:28 PM, <span dir=3D"l=
tr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:N66mg@aol.com">N66mg@aol.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote=
:<br>
<blockquote style=3D"BORDER-LEFT:#ccc 1px solid;MARGIN:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;PA=
DDING-LEFT:1ex" class=3D"gmail_quote"><u></u>
<div style=3D"FONT-FAMILY:Arial;COLOR:#000000;FONT-SIZE:10pt"><font color=
=3D"#000000" face=3D"Arial">
<div><font color=3D"#000080" size=3D"4" face=3D"Comic Sans MS">I had my don=
e by a=A0Engineered Applied Appications, Phone# 323-585-2894=A0in Vernon, C=
A and they looked like polished aluminum, cool...Had a very good service an=
d no problem what so ever, maybe I was just lucky...They do a lot of coatin=
g for race cars too...I was recommended by people who built Shelly Cobras R=
ace cars in Torrance, right next to the airport...No problems with size or =
anything at all, that&#39;s my 2 cents</font></div>

<div><font color=3D"#000080" size=3D"4" face=3D"Comic Sans MS">Michael Giar=
dino</font></div>
<div><font color=3D"#000080" size=3D"4" face=3D"Comic Sans MS">66mg=A0 Glas=
air flying</font></div>
<div><font color=3D"#000080" size=3D"4" face=3D"Comic Sans MS">n7sz L-IV 96=
%</font></div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>
<div>In a message dated 1/11/2012 7:14:09 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, <a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:skipslater@verizon.net" target=3D"_blank">skipslater@verizon.n=
et</a> writes:</div>
<blockquote style=3D"BORDER-LEFT:blue 2px solid;PADDING-LEFT:5px;MARGIN-LEF=
T:5px"><font style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR:transparent" color=3D"#000000" size=
=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">
<div><font face=3D"Arial">I had the same experience as Colyn when I had my =
pipes coated on my ES.=A0=A0I sent my exhaust to Jet Hot (which is primaril=
y for cars) and when I got=A0it back, some joints were a little loose but o=
thers wouldn&#39;t fit at all.=A0 I don&#39;t know how they did it, but som=
e of the joints were visibly out of round.=A0 I had to take them to another=
 shop to try to get them bent back into shape, which resulted in slightly l=
eaky joints.=A0 Eventually, I had to have a new exhaust made.=A0 I took the=
 new pipes to Olympic=A0Coatings=A0in Escondido and had their gray high tem=
p coating put on.=A0 Several years and a few hundred hours later, it&#39;s =
still going strong.=A0 I had both the inside and outside of the pipes done,=
 however it&#39;s important to remember NOT to coat the pipe running throug=
h the heat muff.=A0 Doing so will greatly reduce the heat transfer.</font><=
/div>

<div><font face=3D"Arial">=A0=A0 Skip Slater</font></div>
<div><font face=3D"Arial">=A0=A0 N540ES</font>=A0</div></font></blockquote>=
</div></font></div></blockquote></div><br>

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