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Subject: Re: [LML] Major pilot pucker
From: "William A. Hogarty" <billhogarty@gmail.com>
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Hey Fred:

What else do you guys do for fun over there?????

Bill H.

On Sun, Jan 8, 2012 at 5:50 PM, Frederick Moreno <
frederickmoreno@bigpond.com> wrote:

>     Perth International Airport is interesting in the respect that except
> for a nearby smallish military air base (Pearce) it has the *only* big
> runways for big airplanes for hundreds of miles around.  The really big
> heavies inbound from the Middle East use Adelaide (over 1000 miles away) as
> an alternate at times.
>
> The only nearby airport options are a few general aviation airports, none
> rated for a 737 size aircraft, one really small one (Rottnest - listen for
> it) on a little island about 20 miles offshore.  Beyond that there are some
> regional airports used by turboprops 250-350 miles away.
>
> A couple of days ago the summer tropical 110F air mass to the north
> collided with the 60-70F cool air mass from the south (where we live) and
> quickly created a line of very energetic thunderstorms that ultimately
> stretched north south over most of central Australia.  The line formed
> quickly and wreaked wind shear havoc over Perth, like 58 knots at 250 feet,
> and 25 knots of crosswind at the runway threshold, different direction, of
> course.  This led to a lot of missed approaches until - you guessed it -
> fuel gets low.
>
> Attached is a screen shot of Virgin 697's track history.  He got a long
> hold, then missed on 21, got another hold, then missed on 06 and then the
> pucker factor went way up.
>
> The link will provide about 30 minutes of ATC audio with some longish
> quiet periods.   It starts after Virgin 697 has made a lot of turns in
> holding and missed the first approach to 21.  Listen and then imagine what
> is being thought but unspoken.
>
>  http://archive-server.liveatc.net/ypph/YPPH-Jan-03-2012-1400Z.mp3
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<div>Hey Fred:</div><div>=A0</div><div>What else do you guys do for fun ove=
r there?????</div><div>=A0</div><div>Bill H.<br><br></div><div class=3D"gma=
il_quote">On Sun, Jan 8, 2012 at 5:50 PM, Frederick Moreno <span dir=3D"ltr=
">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:frederickmoreno@bigpond.com">frederickmoreno@bigpon=
d.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
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t for a nearby=A0smallish military air base (Pearce) it has the <u>only</u>=
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y big=A0 heavies inbound from the Middle East use Adelaide (over 1000 miles=
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<div>The only nearby airport options are a few general aviation airports, n=
one rated for a 737 size aircraft, one really small one (Rottnest - listen =
for it) on a little island about 20 miles offshore.=A0 Beyond that there ar=
e some regional airports used by turboprops 250-350 miles away.=A0=A0=A0</d=
iv>

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<div>A couple of days ago the summer tropical 110F air mass to the north co=
llided with the 60-70F cool air mass from the south (where we live) and qui=
ckly created a line of very energetic thunderstorms that ultimately stretch=
ed north south over most of central Australia.=A0 The line formed quickly a=
nd wreaked wind shear=A0havoc over Perth, like 58 knots at 250 feet, and 25=
 knots of crosswind=A0at the runway threshold, different direction, of cour=
se.=A0 This led to a lot of missed approaches until - you guessed it - fuel=
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<div>Attached=A0is a screen shot of Virgin 697&#39;s track history.=A0 He g=
ot a long hold, then missed on 21, got another hold, then missed on 06 and =
then the pucker factor went way up.</div>
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<div>The link will provide about=A030 minutes of ATC audio with some longis=
h quiet periods.=A0=A0 It=A0starts after=A0Virgin 697 has made a lot of tur=
ns in holding and missed the first approach to 21.=A0 Listen and then imagi=
ne what is=A0being thought=A0but unspoken. </div>

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00Z.mp3" target=3D"_blank">http://archive-server.liveatc.net/ypph/YPPH-Jan-=
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