X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Mon, 05 Dec 2011 14:38:22 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from imr-mb02.mx.aol.com ([64.12.207.163] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4.2) with ESMTP id 5292668 for lml@lancaironline.net; Mon, 05 Dec 2011 12:36:21 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=64.12.207.163; envelope-from=Sky2high@aol.com Received: from mtaomg-da06.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-da06.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.142]) by imr-mb02.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id pB5HZY67001636 for ; Mon, 5 Dec 2011 12:35:34 -0500 Received: from core-mtd001c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mtd001.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.235.193]) by mtaomg-da06.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id C7969E000094 for ; Mon, 5 Dec 2011 12:35:33 -0500 (EST) From: Sky2high@aol.com X-Original-Message-ID: <21480.f3e1531.3c0e5ae5@aol.com> X-Original-Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2011 12:35:33 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: [LML] Plasma III X-Original-To: lml@lancaironline.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_21480.f3e1531.3c0e5ae5_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 9.6 sub 168 X-Originating-IP: [24.1.9.48] x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:480140864:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d338e4edd00e5545e --part1_21480.f3e1531.3c0e5ae5_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Language: en Yes, call the people at emagair.com and ask them when they will be =20 supporting 6-cyl engines. =20 Grayhawk =20 =20 In a message dated 12/5/2011 7:59:13 A.M. Central Standard Time, =20 jbarrett@carbinge.com writes: =20 Having a very vexing problem with TSIO-550 engine =E2=80=93 from Performan= ce=20 Engines. Plane hasn=E2=80=99t flown yet and we=E2=80=99re struggling to c= orrect that=20 deficiency. Major hurdle is the engine.=20 Has one EFI (plasma III) and one mag.=20 Ran fine up until about 2+ months ago when we decided to send the control= =20 box back to Klaus to upgrade it to current mods =E2=80=93 Supposedly this = would=20 make it more durable especially heat resistant and maybe some other =20 improvements as well. We have it inside the cockpit so heat was not a maj= or issue,=20 but we just thought it would be better to have the newest modifications. = =20 After reinstall engine runs VERY rough on EFI. Checked phase and that was= =20 ok but we discovered that one coil would not produce much spark in static= =20 tests. We proved that the problem emanated from the control box by moving= =20 the wires at the coils and having the problem follow the wires. Next=20 changed wires at the box connection to ascertain that wires were OK. They= were.=20 Removed box and sent back to Klaus. He said that something was wrong with= =20 the wave forms and would repair. I think he sent us a replacement box a= =20 few weeks ago. Will try to confirm whether he reworked the control box or= =20 replaced it. We installed =E2=80=93 retested the phase settings and verif= ied=20 stronger appearing spark across the coils. So far so good.=20 However the engine still runs ragged on the EFI and runs somewhat uneven= =20 on Mag/EFI combination. Runs same on Mag only. Have pulled plugs and fou= nd=20 one or two EFI plugs wet =E2=80=93 (not firing?). I=E2=80=99m not sure w= hich plugs=20 those were.=20 Strangest finding is that I tried changing the B and C phase wires at the= =20 control box to see if maybe we were off in the phase settings. Ran a lot= =20 worse as expected but the weird thing is that when I turned off the EFI to= =20 run on Mag only, the engine ran very rough. Putting the wires back in th= e=20 correct order on the control box returned the conditions to OK on the mag = =E2=80=93=20 uneven on both and very ragged on EFI.=20 Any suggestions?=20 Regards,=20 John Barrett, CEO=20 Leading Edge Composites=20 PO Box 428=20 Port Hadlock, WA 98339=20 www.carbinge.com=20 --part1_21480.f3e1531.3c0e5ae5_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Language: en
Yes, call the people at emagair.com and ask them when they will be=20 supporting 6-cyl engines.
 
Grayhawk
 
In a message dated 12/5/2011 7:59:13 A.M. Central Standard Time,=20 jbarrett@carbinge.com writes:
=

Having a very vexing problem with TSIO-550 engine = =E2=80=93 from=20 Performance Engines.  Plane hasn=E2=80=99t flown yet and we=E2=80=99= re struggling to=20 correct that deficiency.  Major hurdle is the engine.

 

Has one EFI (plasma III) and one mag.

 

Ran fine up until about 2+ months ago when we decide= d to=20 send the control box back to Klaus to upgrade it to current mods =E2=80= =93 Supposedly=20 this would make it more durable especially heat resistant and maybe some = other=20 improvements as well.  We have it inside the cockpit so heat was not= a=20 major issue, but we just thought it would be better to have the newest=20 modifications. 

 

After reinstall engine runs VERY rough on EFI. = =20 Checked phase and that was ok but we discovered that one coil would not= =20 produce much spark in static tests.  We proved that the problem eman= ated=20 from the control box by moving the wires at the coils and having the prob= lem=20 follow the wires.  Next changed wires at the box connection to ascer= tain=20 that wires were OK.  They were.

 

Removed box and sent back to Klaus.  He said th= at=20 something was wrong with the wave forms and would repair.  I think h= e=20 sent us a replacement box a few weeks ago.  Will try to confirm whet= her=20 he reworked the control box or replaced it.  We installed =E2=80=93 = retested the=20 phase settings and verified stronger appearing spark across the coils.&nb= sp;=20 So far so good.

 

However the engine still runs ragged on the EFI and = runs=20 somewhat uneven on Mag/EFI combination.  Runs same on Mag only. = ;=20 Have pulled plugs and found one or two  EFI plugs wet =E2=80=93 (not= =20 firing?).  I=E2=80=99m not sure which plugs those were.

 

Strangest finding is that I tried changing the B and= C=20 phase wires at the control box to see if maybe we were off in the phase= =20 settings.  Ran a lot worse as expected but the weird thing is that w= hen I=20 turned off the EFI to run on Mag only, the engine ran  very rough.&n= bsp;=20 Putting the wires back in the correct order on the control box returned t= he=20 conditions to OK on the mag =E2=80=93 uneven on both and very ragged on= =20 EFI.

 

Any suggestions?

 

 

 

Regards,

 

John Barrett, CEO

Leading Edge Composites

PO Box 428

Port Hadlock, WA 98339

 

www.carbinge.com

 

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