X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2011 12:22:40 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from raven.ravenwebhosting.com ([72.9.254.67] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4.2) with ESMTPS id 5262662 for lml@lancaironline.net; Mon, 28 Nov 2011 18:45:48 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=72.9.254.67; envelope-from=paul@tbm700.com Received: from 47-61.202-68.tampabay.res.rr.com ([68.202.61.47]:49740 helo=[192.168.1.101]) by raven.ravenwebhosting.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RVAss-0005yK-90 for lml@lancaironline.net; Mon, 28 Nov 2011 18:45:14 -0500 From: paul miller Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-36-619327261 Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Iskra starter 530 hours X-Original-Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2011 18:45:10 -0500 In-Reply-To: X-Original-To: "Lancair Mailing List" References: X-Original-Message-Id: <8051560C-286F-4CFF-A4A9-6B53365D714E@tbm700.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - raven.ravenwebhosting.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - lancaironline.net X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - tbm700.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: --Apple-Mail-36-619327261 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Many thanks for all the suggestions. I have spoken to almost everyone = including Niagara. I do have a replacement starter on the way and the = story of what is happening with Iskra and starter adapters is indeed = long and complicated. But it seems unanimous to all (Except TCM) that = the Iskra is bad news and should be removed from service. I did not = heed the notices from the group regarding the Iskra and I may have more = damage than just the starter so anyone else with the Iskra should = research or simply replace it before it causes problems. Why = Continental continues to let them remain on engines that may cause = damage to starter adapters seems an unhealthy business practice. So, = here is my plan based on all the discussions and shop input: 1) Reverting to the old heavier 24v TCM Energizer starter which has = almost zero complaints and seems endorsed by all the shops as is the 24v = Prestolite. Neither are geared. 2) Changing oil from A/S 100WPLUS to 100W or Exxon 20w50 (suggested by = Niagara). 3) Sending the Iskra to the metal pile at the landfill. 4) Planning on sending the starter adapter later to Niagara for check = once I've got a couple weeks of downtime planned recognizing the engine = must be moved to remove the starter adapter. If anyone has a core or unused TCM energizer 24v starter p/n 646275 = please contact me offline and I'll be happy to buy it as a core, spare = or for the other Legacy in my hangar. Paul Miller Spruce Creek =20 On 2011-11-28, at 10:52 AM, don Grabiel wrote: > Paul Niagara air is probably your best bet. Don G. >=20 > On Nov 26, 2011 10:24 AM, "paul miller" wrote: > I think I've just experienced the iskra failure, slippage recently = during starts and now failure to turn over the io550 this morning. Can = someone point me to the fix assuming I need a starter and possibly = adapter too? >=20 > Paul Miller > Legacy rg > -- > For archives and unsub = http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml/List.html --Apple-Mail-36-619327261 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Many = thanks for all the suggestions. I have spoken to almost everyone = including Niagara. I do have a replacement starter on the way and = the story of what is happening with Iskra and starter adapters is indeed = long and complicated. But it seems unanimous to all (Except TCM) = that the Iskra is bad news and should be removed from service. I = did not heed the notices from the group regarding the Iskra and I may = have more damage than just the starter so anyone else with the Iskra = should research or simply replace it before it causes problems. = Why Continental continues to let them remain on engines that may = cause damage to starter adapters seems an unhealthy business practice. = So, here is my plan based on all the discussions and shop = input:

1) Reverting to the old heavier 24v TCM = Energizer starter which has almost zero complaints and seems endorsed by = all the shops as is the 24v Prestolite. Neither are = geared.

2) Changing oil from A/S 100WPLUS to 100W or Exxon = 20w50 (suggested by Niagara).

3) Sending the Iskra to the = metal pile at the landfill.

4) Planning on sending the starter = adapter later to Niagara for check once I've got a couple weeks of = downtime planned recognizing the engine must be moved to remove the = starter adapter.

If anyone has a core or unused = TCM energizer 24v starter p/n 646275 please contact me offline and = I'll be happy to buy it as a core, spare or for the other Legacy in my = hangar.

Paul Miller

Spruce = Creek

On 2011-11-28, at 10:52 AM, = don Grabiel wrote:

Paul = Niagara air is probably your best bet. Don G.

On Nov 26, 2011 10:24 AM, "paul miller" = <paul@tbm700.com> wrote:
I think I've just experienced the iskra failure, slippage recently = during starts and now failure to turn over the io550 this morning. = Can someone point me to the fix assuming I need a starter and = possibly adapter too?

Paul Miller
Legacy rg
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